Madman
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And Fritz sorry for the Hijack, Madman asked I answered and if we need to continue Madman I propose that we make a separate thread somewhere.
Start it up when ready.
And Fritz sorry for the Hijack, Madman asked I answered and if we need to continue Madman I propose that we make a separate thread somewhere.
And Fritz sorry for the Hijack, Madman asked I answered and if we need to continue Madman I propose that we make a separate thread somewhere.
No sweat my friend. I just hate that someone wrecked your faith though...
FM,
Sorry for the hijack.
I was just trying to get TT's point of reference.
Well lets see my documentation is as follows:
How many gosples were considered for inclussion in the new Testament?
The Gospel of the Hebrews didn't make the cut. Why?
The Gospel of Thomas didn't make the cut either, Why?
The Gospel of Peter same situation
The Gospel of Judas same
The Coptic Gospel of Egyptians same question
A council of men sat and determined that only the 4 Gospels Mathew, Mark, Luke and John were needed.
That is the proof that some books were chosen and other left out it's common knowledge history of your religion yet you seem not to know anything about it.
The Gnostic Bibles were burned and destroyed or simply left to rot because they conflicted with the mainstream roman catholic at the time churches views.
Any simple google will lead you to documentation of this historic fact and the fact that a Gnostic bible scroll set was recovered by archeologists recently and yet these gospels were not included in the Roman Catholic Bible.
The Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant versions of the New Testament are all different, some include books that others do not.
How much more proof do you need Madman or is this enough.
This just proves there are not near as many people saved as you think there are...i believe that when the church is raptured out of this world it will not even make a ripple...now a lot of people are saved and are going to heaven, i am one. most people cannot even tell you about when or where they got saved and why they did it. i for one hand can draw an x at the alter. You cannot prove that i am not saved that is between me and the lord. now your friend may or may not be saved, but if the bible says it i believe it. i dont understand how you could be truely saved and call god a liar...personal opinion.
but where does it say the word rapture in the bible.
..i believe that when the church is raptured out of this world
where is the word, "bible" in the bible? since "bible" is not in the bible, therefore the bible does not exist...
So would you say anything to your friend who believes Genesis is a lie?
where is the word, "bible" in the bible? since "bible" is not in the bible, therefore the bible does not exist...
There is something called the law of non-condradictory, you cant say "the word bible is not in the bible", the second part of that statement states the fact that there is a bible.
The fact is that the bible does not say that one day christians will all disappear and its called the rapture.
Semantics. For your benefit we'll call it the catching up. 1Thes 4:17.
Is there any record in the bible of anyone calling God a liar? if so, what was the significance? I have a "Christian" friend that basically said God is a liar. he said he is a Christian yet does not believe the bible. can you be a heaven bound Christian while telling God that what He wrote in His bible, is not true? He believes most of the bible but goes to a church where they deny much of the bible, thus he thinks much of the bible is not true.