2 Georgia Gun Dealers Settle Suit Brought by New York City

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Howard Roark

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2 Georgia Gun Dealers Settle Suit Brought by New York City
By DIANE CARDWELL

In a victory for the city’s novel approach to fighting illegal gun trafficking, two Georgia gun dealers have agreed to submit to monitoring by a court-appointed special master as part of a settlement in the city’s lawsuit against them, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said yesterday.

“The agreement will achieve exactly what we wanted: strict monitoring of their sales practices as well as financial penalties on any future violations of the law,” Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference announcing the settlement. “It is a big step forward in our battle against illegal guns, and it will provide us with broad powers to hold these dealers accountable.”

In a two-month sting operation announced in May, the city sent teams of private investigators posing as gun buyers to stores in five states, whose guns had been linked to more than 500 crimes in New York City from 1994 to 2001. Officials said that the investigators caught 15 dealers allowing what appeared to be so-called straw purchases, illegal transactions in which one individual submits to the required federal background check for a gun that is clearly to be used by someone else.

The city shared the evidence with federal law enforcement agencies and used it in a federal lawsuit against the dealers, in which the city is seeking monetary damages and the appointment of a special master to monitor sales. Now, two of the dealers, A-1 Jewelry and Pawn of Augusta and AAA Gun and Pawn Brokers of Hephzibah, have agreed to the city’s demands. They admitted no wrongdoing.

Under the settlement, the city will choose and pay for a special master to be appointed by the Georgia court. The stores have agreed to provide records, undergo video monitoring and take special training in conducting legal sales. The agreement, which expires after three years without a reported violation, sets a penalty structure for violations of firearms laws and requires each store to post a $5,000 bond in advance to cover possible penalties.

The administration’s approach in its sting operation and lawsuit ruffled some feathers in law enforcement circles and in the gun industry circles. Bob Barr, a former congressman from Georgia, filed a lawsuit last month against Mr. Bloomberg and others on behalf of one of the dealers, Adventure Outdoors of Smyrna, Ga., saying that they had conspired to harm the business.

But the settlement announced yesterday was a rare success that officials hope will send a message to the other 13 dealers.

“They made it clear to us that they were committed to preventing guns from ending up in the hands of criminals, and together we reached a good and fair deal,” Mr. Bloomberg said of the two dealers who settled. “Our message to those other dealers is simple: If they stand up and do what’s right and become part of the solution, there’s a fair deal waiting for them.”
 
I hope Adventure Outdoors rips Bloomberg a new one.This is exactly what he was hoping for a bunch of the dealers to roll over like these two have done.
 
Howard Roark said:
2 Georgia Gun Dealers Settle Suit Brought by New York City
By DIANE CARDWELL


“They made it clear to us that they were committed to preventing guns from ending up in the hands of criminals, and together we reached a good and fair deal,” Mr. Bloomberg said of the two dealers who settled. “Our message to those other dealers is simple: If they stand up and do what’s right and become part of the solution, there’s a fair deal waiting for them.”

Yeah, right. I can't believe they caved to a Mayor of New York City!
 

WTM45

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The little man.....they probably could not afford to defend themselves, so they did what they had to do just to stay in business. The legal costs alone of a defense might be more than their budgets could handle.

A darn shame.............
 

WTM45

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A settlement does not establish guilt or innocence, nor should it be considered a victory for NYC.
It is the liberal author of this article putting the spin on it.
 

dixie

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I'm not sure about the whole story but I heard something on the news this morning and it sounded like two more dealers here have been sued now, if anyone has the whole story or the rest of it, please post it.
 
The Gun Store in Doraville is one of the two. They wouldn't speak last night on the news, but denied the charge.
 
Buy private sale guns while you can--even if it costs more.

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AAADawg

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A GOP Pol promoting any kind of gun control??? It seems to me that Bloomberg has been mentioned in the past as a possible GOP Presidential candidate in the not so distant future.....makes you go huhhhhmmmmmmm.......:bounce:
 

AAADawg

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serioulsy Id be willing to bet that the settlement did not inlcude any money from the two companies involved....that way the plaintiffs were almost assured of an agreemnet...and the defendants saved a lot on lawyer fees....the out come wont result in anything at all other than Bloomberg being able to tell NYC democrats that he hsa put those cracker gun dealers in their place...
 
AAADawg said:
serioulsy Id be willing to bet that the settlement did not inlcude any money from the two companies involved....that way the plaintiffs were almost assured of an agreemnet...and the defendants saved a lot on lawyer fees....the out come wont result in anything at all other than Bloomberg being able to tell NYC democrats that he hsa put those cracker gun dealers in their place...[/QUOTE]

That's my take on it, too.

Too bad he didn't come down here one dark night and..................



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AAADawg said:
A GOP Pol promoting any kind of gun control??? It seems to me that Bloomberg has been mentioned in the past as a possible GOP Presidential candidate in the not so distant future.....makes you go huhhhhmmmmmmm.......:bounce:
Mentioned is the key phrase.

Someone on this forum mentioned that I should run for governor. I stand about the same chance of being Governor that MRB stands being the GOP nominee for president, that is no chance at all.
 

RJY66

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Howard Roark said:
Mentioned is the key phrase.

Someone on this forum mentioned that I should run for governor. I stand about the same chance of being Governor that MRB stands being the GOP nominee for president, that is no chance at all.
It is kind of like the Democrats have one politician, Joe Lieberman, who "gets" the war on terror. The Republicans have one, Bloomberg, who thinks that gun control prevents crime, therefore proving he does not "get" what causes crime.

I guess what I am trying to say is that the Republicans have one politician who is a complete fool and the Democrats have ONE who is not.....maybe two if you count Zell!
 
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I'll have to add that a gun dealer has no right to sell a gun to a criminal or anyone else, a straw purchase, who doesn't have their ID checked.

When you have a number of guns, that change hands rapidly, after the initial purchase, and are found some 800 miles away, at a crime scene, you might expect to see some trouble down the road, as a gun dealer.

Such instances are neither good for the crime victim, nor the American gun owners.
 
I believe all of these guns that were sold had background checks. Also when you fill out the yellow form there is a statement you have to answer about not transferring these guns to another party. How does a firearms dealer know where these guns wind up. The dealers did everything by the book. I think we have a mayor in New York trying to make a name for himself. Also, shedding the blame for high crime statistics on firearms dealers who have no control over what these people do with guns after they are purchased.
 
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