After Death

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Spiritual Death Eph. 2:1-10:

What spiritual death is, It is simply the separation of man from God because of sin. "But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear" Isa. 59:2. "And you hath he quickened [made alive, resurrected] who were dead in trespasses and sins. . . . even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved. And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus" Eph. 2:1-10.
Adam's penalty was death the day he sinned. This could only refer to spiritual and death for he lived 930 years after that day. It could only refer to spiritual and eternal death because of being cut off from God by sin. Adam's soul lost life the day he sinned. He did not lose natural life that day or his soul would have ceased to function. Man's natural life exists of itself separate and apart from God, for sinners continue to exists separate from God. Spiritual and eternal life cannot be given until man is resurrected from death in trespasses and sins and united to God 1 Cor. 6:17; Rom. 8:9-16; Eph. 2.

 

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Resurrection from spiritual death.

In Eph. 2 we are told of being quickened and raised up from death in trespasses and sins. The Greek word for quickened is zoopoieo and means to resurrect, make alive, and quicken. It is translated made alive in 1 Cor. 15:22, referring to the physical resurrection of all men. It is translated give life in 2 Cor. 3:6; Gal. 3:21 and quicken in Jn. 5:21; 6:63; Rom. 4:16; 8:11; 1 Cor. 15:36, 45; 1 Tim. 6:13; 1 Pet. 3:18. Sinners are all considered spiritually dead even while they are physically alive Eph. 2:1-10; Col. 2:12, 13; 1 Tim. 5:6; Jude 12. When they are saved from sin and united to God again they are spiritually resurrected to walk i newness of life.

 

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Doctrine of Immortality

The words describing the eternal existence or a never die condition of the soul and body are: They are used of both God and man as can be seen:

Immortal. This word comes from the Greek word aphthartos, meaning un-decaying, not corruptible, immortal. The word immortal is found only once in Scripture and is used of God 1 Tim. 1:17. This same Greek word is translated not corruptible in speaking of "the hidden man of the heart" and of the "spirit" of man in 1 Pet. 3:4, thus proving beyond doubt that the inner man is immortal look also at Ps. 22:26. It is translated incorruptible in referring to the eternal inheritance, and the crown that believers are to receive at the end of this life 1 Cor. 9:25; 1 Pet. 1:4. It is translated incorruptible, referring to the Word of God 1 Pet. 1:23 and of the resurrected bodies of saints 1 Cor. 15:52.
Thus God, the Word of God, the soul and spirit of man, the further crown, the inheritance of saints, and the resurrected bodies of believers are all immortal and incorruptible. One can argue that the soul and spirit of man are not immortal, but if Peter said the hidden man of the heart or the spirit is not corruptible that settles it for honest hearts. If the same Greek word is used of both God and man and if it means immortal in one case it does in the other. The Greek word literally means undecaying in essence or continuance, not corruptible, immortal, incorruptible, and uncorruptible and whatever this word is used with, that person or thing is immortal.

 

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Genesis 2:17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”

Well we do know that Adam didn't physically die when he ate from that tree.

 

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Immortality This word is a translation of two Greek words, meaning the same as the Greek word above, as follows:

Aphtharsia, means incorruptibility, unending existence, immortality, incorruption, sincerity. It is translated incorruption, referring to the resurrected bodies of saints in 1 Cor. 15:42, 50, 53, 54. It is translated immortality referring to the life that saints get through the gospel Rom. 2:7; 1 Tim. 1:10, sincerity, referring to the uncorruptness of the love of men to Christ Eph. 6:24, and uncorruptness, referring to immortality of the life that saints are to demonstrate before men Titus 2:7.

Aphanasia, meaning deathlessness and immortality. It is used of God being immortal in body and of the bodies of the saints in the resurrection 1 Cor. 15:53, 54; 1 Tim. 6:16. Twice this word is used of man's future immortal body 1 Cor. 15:53, 54 and once of God being the only immortal one 1 Tim. 6:16. This does not mean that He is the only one who has immortality of body, but that He is the Source and giver of all such life to others. Angels have immortal bodies. Christ and the saints that have been resurrected with Him received immortal bodies Matt. 27:52, 53; 1 Cor. 15:20-23; Phil. 3:20, 21; Rev. 1:18. All men will be raised from the dead to live conscious lives forever, both the righteous and the wicked.

 

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Incorruptible. This word is from the Greek aphtharsia as seen above it is used four times of the resurrected bodies of men 1 Cor. 15:42, 50, 53, 54.

In corruptible. This word is from the Greek aphthartos as seen above It is used of the resurrected bodies of men 1 Cor. 15:52, of an incorruptible crown 1 Cor. 9:25, of an incorruptible inheritance 1 Pet. 1:4, and of the incorruptible Word of God 1 Pet. 1:23.

 

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Proof of the Immortality of the Soul and Spirit

The Bible is very clear that the inner man made up of the soul and spirit is now immortal and will continue in a state of consciousness between death and resurrection and forever after the resurrection of the dead.
The following proves this beyond doubt.

A. Plain statements in Scriptures prove the immortality of the soul. Peter said that the inner man of the spirit of man is not corruptible: "But let it be THE HINDDEN MAN OF THE HEART, in that WHICH IS NOT CORRUPTIBLE, even the ornament of a QUIET SPIRIT, which is the sight of God of great price" 1 Pet. 3:4 In 1 Pet. 4:6 it is again stated by the apostle that all the dead live according to God in the spirit, proving that the inner man of every body continues in consciousness like God. We have to believe this or else believe that God is unconscious. If men after death continue to live according to God in their spirits, then they continue to be conscious like God.

 

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David said of Christ, "For thou will not leave my soul in He11 neither will thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption" Ps. 16:9, 10. We know that the soul and spirit of Christ was alive and conscious while His body was in the grave. This is proved by the fact that He went and preached to the spirits in prison during that time. Also this is clear from the fact that Christ's soul went into the lower parts and into the heart of the Earth Matt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11 and His body was put in the grave on the surface of the Earth Matt. 27:57-66. Certainly His grave was not in the center and lower parts of the Earth. David said in Psalms 22:26 that the hearts of the saved "shall live forever." The word for heart in this passage is used many times of the feelings, the will, and the mind and it refers to the inner man in this case.

 

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The apostles made many statements proving men continue to live after death: "Who died for us, that, we wake [live in the body] or sleep [die or leave the body, James 2:26], WE SHALL LIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM" 1 Tim. 5:10. This plainly says that the saints who die physically will live together with Christ. This is in prefect harmony with 2 Cor. 5:6-9, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, WHILST WE ARE AT HOME IN THE BODY, WE ARE ABSENT FROM THE LORD . . . . We are confident, I say and willing rather TO BE ABSENT FROM THE BODY, AND TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD. Wherefore we labour, that WHETHER PRESENT OR ABSENT, we may be accepted of him." This proves that the inner man leaves the body at physical death and goes to be with the Lord who is not the God of the dead (the physical body, James 2:26 but of the living Matt. 22:23-33.

 

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This same truth is clearly stated in Phil. 1:21-23, "For to me to live is Christ, and TO DIE IS GAIN. But if I live IN THE FLESH, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire TO DEPART AND BE WITH CHRIST; which is far more better: nevertheless TO ABIDE IN THE FLESH is more needful for you." What gain would there be in physical death if the soul and spirit were dormant and lifeless and unconscious in the grave? How could the soul remain in the body in the grave and still depart from the body to be with Christ? Is Christ in the grave? Is the grave the place saints are to go in order to be with Him at physical death? How could this be far better if the soul is not conscious? How could the grave and total extinction of consciousness after death be far better than to remain in the flesh to win souls for Christ and to help the saints live right? How could the inner man be absent from the body at death if it remain in the body and both went into the grave to be dormant until the resurrection.

 

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Paul speaks of the outward man only as perishing and the inward man being renewed day by day and that the things that are seen [including the body] are temporal and the things that are not seen [including the soul and spirit] ARE ETERNAL 2 Cor. 4:16-18. This certainly shows the difference between the outer man and the inner man and that one is temporary and the other is eternal. This shows the ever increasing law of death for the body until the soul separates from it at physical death and the ever increasing life of the soul which is eternal.

 

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Paul in Tim. 4:8 refers to a life after this one. This surely speaks of the life after the resurrection, for he makes it clears in other writings that the inner man leaves the body and goes to be with Christ, as we have seen above. He taught that men who continue in Christ until death had ETERNAL LIFE because they did not give up this life for sin 1 Cor. 15:2; Rom. 8:12, 13; 1 Thess. 3:8; Gal. 6:7, 8. He warns men that they have to fight the good fight of faith and lay hold on eternal life to be saved 1 Tim. 6:12; Titus 3:7. If it is possible to have eternal life, then there will be no period of cessation of life between death and resurrection except as to the body. The real saved person will continue to have eternal life after death or many Scriptures would be untrue Jn. 3:16, 36; 5:24; 6:39-58; 10:27-29; 11:25, 26; 14:19. John said that he that doeth the will of God ABIDETH FOR EVER 1 Jn. 2:17. others confirm the same thing.

 

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Only the body dies and sleeps in the dust until resurrection. Physical death is the separation of the inner man from the outer man Jas. 2:26. The body then is spoken of as going back to dust again and being asleep Gen. 3:19; Matt. 9:24; Jn. 11:11; 1 Cor. 11:30; 15:6, 18, 20, 51; 1 Thess. 4:13-17. The spirit of a righteous man goes to Heaven 2 Cor. 5:6-9; Phil. 1:21-23; Heb. 12:23; Rev. 6:9-11. The spirit of the wicked man goes to He11 Lk. 16:19-31; Isa. 14:9-15; Prov. 15:24; Ezek. 26:26; 31:14-18; 32:18-27.
Promises that the path of the just shines brighter until the prefect day prove the immortality of the soul Prov. 4:18; Dan. 12:2-3. If there is to be a period of extinction of life these and other passages could not be true for there would not be constant glory into eternity.

 

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Jesus said that God was not the God of the dead but of the living "FOR ALL LIVE UNTO HIM" Lk. 20:38. All do not live physically unto Him so it must be that all live in their spirits unto him as stated in 1 Pet. 3:4; 4:6. Jesus said of Himself, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, YET SHALL HE LIVE: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me SHALL NEVER DIE" Jn. 11:25, 26. this could mean that they would never die physically for it is appointed unto men once to die and after this judgment Heb. 9:27. The above promise of never dying must refer to the life of the soul, thus proving that the soul is immortal. Jesus further taught the immortality of the soul when He stated that the soul cannot be killed by man like the body Mt. 10:28. If the soul cannot be killed with the body, then the soul is immortal.

 

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Jesus said that God was not the God of the dead but of the living "FOR ALL LIVE UNTO HIM" Lk. 20:38. All do not live physically unto Him so it must be that all live in their spirits unto him as stated in 1 Pet. 3:4; 4:6. Jesus said of Himself, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, YET SHALL HE LIVE: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me SHALL NEVER DIE" Jn. 11:25, 26. this could mean that they would never die physically for it is appointed unto men once to die and after this judgment Heb. 9:27. The above promise of never dying must refer to the life of the soul, thus proving that the soul is immortal. Jesus further taught the immortality of the soul when He stated that the soul cannot be killed by man like the body Mt. 10:28. If the soul cannot be killed with the body, then the soul is immortal.

Glad you finally understand that the spirit is what is saved and is immortal(born of God) which cannot sin.

 

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Spiritual Death Eph. 2:1-10:

What spiritual death is, It is simply the separation of man from God because of sin. "But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear" Isa. 59:2. "And you hath he quickened [made alive, resurrected] who were dead in trespasses and sins. . . . even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved. And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus" Eph. 2:1-10.
Adam's penalty was death the day he sinned. This could only refer to spiritual and death for he lived 930 years after that day. It could only refer to spiritual and eternal death because of being cut off from God by sin. Adam's soul lost life the day he sinned. He did not lose natural life that day or his soul would have ceased to function. Man's natural life exists of itself separate and apart from God, for sinners continue to exists separate from God. Spiritual and eternal life cannot be given until man is resurrected from death in trespasses and sins and united to God 1 Cor. 6:17; Rom. 8:9-16; Eph. 2.

No one but Jesus has been resurrected. There has been many been made alive again in the Bible but they all died again. Being resurrected means to never die again. Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection. We will be the next when we come out of the graves. The spirit is dead until salvation, the spirit is what is “made alive”. That’s why Jesus said, let the dead bury the dead. Meaning the lost. That quickening is called “born again” as he told nicodemus.

 

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Glad you finally understand that the spirit is what is saved and is immortal(born of God) which cannot sin.

Incorrect its the soul you best get to studying and learn what the body is and soul is and Spirit because they is a difference you out of your league going against the Word of God.