Anybody ever switch out their #11 nipple for a musket nipple on their sidelock?

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GAHUNTER60

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My TC Hawken sometimes has a problem with slow ignition when using 777. I know this is a common problem with side locks and sustitutes.

I've been told that switching out my nipple to a musket nipple will solve this problem.

Anybody have any experience with this?
 
I use a musket nipple on my TC New Englander when I'm hunting. I use Black Powder though. Never had it blow back the hammer but I've heard of it happening.
 
Had a smokepole guru teach me a great trick...Dump (powder), Bump (butt on ground a time or two), and Tap (the lock side, tilted down).

Shove the ball home on half cock, cap, and experience instant ignition with BP, Pyro, or T7 in your sidelock.

Uncap, pick the nipple, and repeat.

I was taught this when I said I wanted to use a musket nipple in a gun meant for #11.

YMMV.
 

Tom W.

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I bought some caps that had two holes on the side of the nipples, I believe Uncle Mike's made them. As black powder was scarce in this area I was always gifted with pyrodex "p". I got an occasional "auto cock" every now and then, but no damage. I still have an unopened can of pyrodex that's at least 20 years old. My one bp partner moved and my oldest son I seldom see anymore, except to go fishing once or twice a year....
 
Had a smokepole guru teach me a great trick...Dump (powder), Bump (butt on ground a time or two), and Tap (the lock side, tilted down).

Shove the ball home on half cock, cap, and experience instant ignition with BP, Pyro, or T7 in your sidelock.

Uncap, pick the nipple, and repeat.

I was taught this when I said I wanted to use a musket nipple in a gun meant for #11.

YMMV.
My mileage is the same. Was taught that was the correct way to load. Still use the musket nipple and am very happy. Expecially since I found a good capper for the "top hat" style nipples. No more fumbling around.
 

Tom W.

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So I gotta ask....do the musket nipples fit the early T/C Hawkens without having to drill and tap the rifle? If so, who sells them?
 
I have always switched to musket nipples on percussion sidelocks.

More fire is always good and easier to handle with old fingers.
You just have to get the proper thread size and swap them out!
 
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GAHUNTER60

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Yes, it's just a matter of unscrewing the 1/4-28 #11 nipple and screwing in the 1/4-28 musket nipple. You can buy both the nipple and the musket caps from Deer Creek Gun Shop in Marietta, GA.
 
I bought an adapter for my Hawken 20 yrs ago to use a small pistol primer....Works very good....not had slow ignition or hang fire since....it uses a small screw off cap and u insert a small pistol primer and replace the cap....
also waterproof..
 
Yes, I've done that before with good results.
 
If you go to the musket caps I recommend the top hat style They are easier to handle, at least for me they are. And like I said above, there is a great capper made for them.
 
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Bought a 1/4-28 nipple musket cap nipple today. Unfortunately, the only Musket caps they had were the reenactment CCIs, which are too cool. I guess I'll have to make a trip over to Deer Creek in Marietta on Saturday to buy a tin on the RWS caps.

Not only is real black powder getting hard to find locally, I can shoot 8-10 shots in a row without running a patch down my barrel by using Triple 7, and almost every gun shop (and some Wally Worlds) carry it.
 
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