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Congratulations! That's a fine buckThanks man, not my PB...but the biggest to come off our farm.
Congratulations! That's a fine buckThanks man, not my PB...but the biggest to come off our farm.
Had a similar experience the 1st they cut the big track I had…think I drove up on 8 truckloads the morning of November 4th round 10 yrs ago…killed a heck of buck that afternoon!Man I would look forward to it. Our family farm had some timber clear cut last winter, but they had to come back to thin some this year and of course they started the 1st week in November . I was really disappointed to say the least, thought I would get in one more hunt before they started but I passed the loggers heading out on my way in. Since I was already there I decided to hunt anyway...ended up killing the biggest buck that has been killed off the farm. This was my view from the stand that day.
Just started experimenting with fire on younger loblolly stands on our own property (less than 12 years old). I have also noticed the first three or four years after a plant hold a ton of deer but when they canopy out there's just nothing in there for the deer unless its bedding and then it needs to be close to water and food for them to really use it for bedding. I took a nine year old loblolly stand and ran a fire through it this past weekend. Temps were low and I waited to light the fire close to dark (5pm) with a humidity about 38 percent and rising....wind in the 7 mph range. I now wish I would have lit it earlier to get the fire a little hotter. It cleaned it out but I don't think I really opened up the canopy enough to obtain my goal of having a nice balance of young pines as well as a good area for wildlife to use. Time will tell I suppose. I did a smaller 12 acre tract to start that has a drain (natural fire break) separating it from a larger 24 acre tract. I didn't want to scorch 36 acres of pines of course. Once I saw how the fire wasn't going to go crazy I lit the larger tract. I asked two different foresters their thoughts on doing it. One was scared to death and noted that I may kill all the trees...the other was more in line with what actually happened. He told me he would be surprised if I got any mortality at all with the low temps and lighting it late in the day.
I would take 50 percent mortality. Just looks like I will be lucky to get 15. The temps were cold and it was a late day fire. Not as much ladder fuel in there as I thought as well. Maybe I will get lucky. In your opinion how soon will I see the trees turn brown that are not going to make it.I would be surprised if you didn’t kill many of the trees to accomplish your objective. In fact, that’s the only way you’ll accomplish it. I never burn slash or lob stands until thinning, but that policy is for cash, not wildlife
How did you make out with this?I would take 50 percent mortality. Just looks like I will be lucky to get 15. The temps were cold and it was a late day fire. Not as much ladder fuel in there as I thought as well. Maybe I will get lucky. In your opinion how soon will I see the trees turn brown that are not going to make it.
Not much at all...maybe 10 percent. Going to try again with a growing season burn this year. There is still a lot of fuel to burn in there. I tried on a cold day and started late (around 3:30). This next one will be a middle of the day start time...that is a fact.How did you make out with this?
I’m about to burn a 8 yr old loblolly stand. Local GFC crew is going to do it, but I will light the first match of course. How much mortality did you end up having?
wait until you see it after the helicopter sprays it with herbicide. Will turn your stomach.
Somebody got some nice checks too. Fun to reset the board and create a new setupWe cut the family farm as well.
Timber prices are rough, but dying trees forced our hand. Some BIG wood came off this tract. Hate to see them go, but it freed up sunlight for select oaks and new forage.
Just apart of it unfortunately. In my opinion, a mature pine Savannah is arguably one of the best views on a crisp November morning.
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Long leaf Savannah would sure enough go a long way to improving wildlife!We cut the family farm as well.
Timber prices are rough, but dying trees forced our hand. Some BIG wood came off this tract. Hate to see them go, but it freed up sunlight for select oaks and new forage.
Just apart of it unfortunately. In my opinion, a mature pine Savannah is arguably one of the best views on a crisp November morning.
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What area of Georgia are you in?I wish I could get somebody to get out and thin my place. I keep getting told that quotas are so high they’re only doing clear cuts and the larger the tract the better.
Lincoln County. Tons of timber companies around and I've heard the same thing from two. Haven't been aggressively shopping it once I heard that but I'm starting to become impatient.What area of Georgia are you in?
I’ve burned under smaller trees like this. If air temps are low and your ground moisture is up it’s usually fine. Those trees do catch a lot of heat in the canopy but if fire intensity is relatively low, it will be fine.Just started experimenting with fire on younger loblolly stands on our own property (less than 12 years old). I have also noticed the first three or four years after a plant hold a ton of deer but when they canopy out there's just nothing in there for the deer unless its bedding and then it needs to be close to water and food for them to really use it for bedding. I took a nine year old loblolly stand and ran a fire through it this past weekend. Temps were low and I waited to light the fire close to dark (5pm) with a humidity about 38 percent and rising....wind in the 7 mph range. I now wish I would have lit it earlier to get the fire a little hotter. It cleaned it out but I don't think I really opened up the canopy enough to obtain my goal of having a nice balance of young pines as well as a good area for wildlife to use. Time will tell I suppose. I did a smaller 12 acre tract to start that has a drain (natural fire break) separating it from a larger 24 acre tract. I didn't want to scorch 36 acres of pines of course. Once I saw how the fire wasn't going to go crazy I lit the larger tract. I asked two different foresters their thoughts on doing it. One was scared to death and noted that I may kill all the trees...the other was more in line with what actually happened. He told me he would be surprised if I got any mortality at all with the low temps and lighting it late in the day.
The pulpwood market in that part of the state is rough. There is now only one pulp mill in Augusta and they have most loggers on an extremely low quota. Take into account there was an extremely bad southern pine beetle outbreak this summer which flooded the mill.Lincoln County. Tons of timber companies around and I've heard the same thing from two. Haven't been aggressively shopping it once I heard that but I'm starting to become impatient.
Thanks for the info. I’ll send you a PM.The pulpwood market in that part of the state is rough. There is now only one pulp mill in Augusta and they have most loggers on an extremely low quota. Take into account there was an extremely bad southern pine beetle outbreak this summer which flooded the mill.
I would say wait until the pine beetle wood cycles through and things might improve slightly. Also, do you have good dry land and how many acres needs to be thinned? I might can point you in a direction.