Ckillmaster's CWD Q&A thread

slow motion

Senior Member
If someone had meat in their freezer that had been tested and came back as a positive for CWD how should they proceed? This is assuming it came from another state. Contact local DNR office? Simply send to landfill? Or? Thanks.
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
If someone had meat in their freezer that had been tested and came back as a positive for CWD how should they proceed? This is assuming it came from another state. Contact local DNR office? Simply send to landfill? Or? Thanks.
You could do either. We mainly want to make sure it goes to a landfill.
 

elfiii

Admin
Staff member
You could do either. We mainly want to make sure it goes to a landfill.

Which poses the next question - What are the chances of CWD prions escaping the landfill?
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
Which poses the next question - What are the chances of CWD prions escaping the landfill?
Probably very low. There are a myriad of ways that small amounts of prions get spread like crows/vultures feeding on carcasses then pooping it out elsewhere, hay or other ag products from CWD areas that deer utilized, mud on truck tires, etc. None of these are really feasible sources of infection because an individual likely wouldn't consume enough prion to cause an infection. It just doesn't seem to transmit very easily from environmental contamination, live deer to deer is the primary mode of transmission.
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
Please be aware of these very irresponsible sensational headlines about a recent case study.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/study-hunters-die-consuming-cwd-160020393.html

There is still no evidence that CWD is transmissible to humans. All this case study says is that 2 older people died of a spontaneously occurring human prion disease (CJD, or Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease ) in an area with CWD. They were hunters, but there is no indication that they were consuming CWD positive deer or that CWD was the cause. The news media are making leaping conclusions over what is likely nothing.

Only 4 countries have CWD, and the US has the most. However our incidence of CJD in humans is below average globally and CJD is highest in countries that don't have CWD at all.
 

Westdawg14

Member
Hello Charlie I have this doe on camera all in all she looks healthy other than her neck do you have any idea what could possibly be wrong with her
 

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Bucaramus

Senior Member
So there is a new mineral on the market and I won't mention their name but they claim, " It also contains Humic Acid which studies have shown it can help eliminate Chronic Wasting Disease prions in the soil level."

Is there any truth to this or is it just hog wash?
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
So there is a new mineral on the market and I won't mention their name but they claim, " It also contains Humic Acid which studies have shown it can help eliminate Chronic Wasting Disease prions in the soil level."

Is there any truth to this or is it just hog wash?
So there is some research that shows that increased humic acid in soil can reduce the infectivity of prions in soil. While that may help address the environmental contamination issue in areas that have high humic acid, it has nothing to do with deer to deer transmission. Looks like some deer breeders decided that since humic acid reduced infectivity in the soil it must also work if you feed it to a deer. There's no evidence that feeding anything to a deer will eliminate or reduce CWD. Bleach will completely destroy CWD, but that doesn't mean feeding bleach to deer will eliminate CWD.
 
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C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
Hello Charlie I have this doe on camera all in all she looks healthy other than her neck do you have any idea what could possibly be wrong with her
That's some sort of tumor, it's not uncommon and not caused by any transmissible disease. Growths and tumors freak people out the most, but they are the least concerning from a herd health perspective. I wouldn't eat a deer with a large growth though just to be on the safe side.
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist

chiefbaron

Member
Here's a great article about CWD and how Georgia has been preparing to handle it if/when we find it.

Charlie, you need to ask onX "what happened to North Carolina?" o_O You would think that a 'digital mapping' company would do better. Full disclosure - I'm and onX app user.
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I was talking with a game warden in Fl and he said that our antlers had to be checked or cured by a local taxidermist before bringing them back to Fl. I watched a video of a taxidermist doing the old boil and cleaning for a Euro mount and he said that's all that needs to happen. What else should we do before transporting antlers to be legal?
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
I was talking with a game warden in Fl and he said that our antlers had to be checked or cured by a local taxidermist before bringing them back to Fl. I watched a video of a taxidermist doing the old boil and cleaning for a Euro mount and he said that's all that needs to happen. What else should we do before transporting antlers to be legal?
Just make sure all the soft tissue is gone, you don't need to boil it. If you cut the skull plate off, scoop out the brain and peel the membrane off with a pair of pliers. If you're doing a euro mount then you will have to boil it to clean all the soft tissue. When I hunted elk in CO we boiled the skull of one at camp and then (discreetly) pressure washed it at a self-serve carwash.
 

splatek

UAEC
@C.Killmaster just curious as I am re-reading this post: some taxidermists use the beetles to do euros. Say the beetles ate up a CWD infected brain, and then the beetles are discarded or escape... can this be a vector for transmission? I use the boil technique so i am not all that worried, but just curious.
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
@C.Killmaster just curious as I am re-reading this post: some taxidermists use the beetles to do euros. Say the beetles ate up a CWD infected brain, and then the beetles are discarded or escape... can this be a vector for transmission? I use the boil technique so i am not all that worried, but just curious.
I guess it could be remotely possible, but unlikely. I would actually worry more about a taxidermist that uses a pressure washer outdoors in an area that deer could access. While it could be possible for CWD to transmit from a single carcass, the more likely scenario would be from a taxidermist or deer processor that took deer from out of state discarding waste carcass on the landscape year after year in the same location. With that said, live deer to live deer transmission is far more efficient so preventing illegal importation of live deer is paramount.
 

Cmcharles

Senior Member
What’s the average length of time it takes CWD to kill a deer? Also at what point do they show symptoms? Just wondering how long you could have infected deer and not know it or see any signs?
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
What’s the average length of time it takes CWD to kill a deer? Also at what point do they show symptoms? Just wondering how long you could have infected deer and not know it or see any signs?
18 to 30 months. Symptoms don't typically appear until the last few months.
 
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