Cleaning out stumps from clearcut

[bnew17]

Red clay or south ga sand?

Definitely not clay. More sandy soft dirt

 

[Milkman]

I understand those guys have to make a living, but i’m not paying anybody $500 to show up. I’d be glad to pay for a days work.

The showing up would mean transportation charge.

 

[livinoutdoors]

Just leave em and plant. I think you will be suprised at how much you can do with stumps in the ground. Plus it cost $0.00 to leave em.

 

[Elkbane]

My bet is they won't turn to lighter wood. At the age your trees are, the juvenile core will be really soft and the stumps will rot quickly - 2-3 years. Lighter wood forms from from slow growing trees with tight growth rings, usually in Natural Slash and Longleaf that grew up in really dense stands. If your trees were from a "modern" plantation with average stand density (like 600-700 trees per acre), they were bred for fast growth and have wide growth rings - exactly the opposite of the conditions which produce lighter wood.

Opposite reason why lumber isn't as good as it once was - density of the wood and ring spacing.

Elkbane

 

[treemanjohn]

Probably 3 to 500 now just to put the dozer on the site. 175 an hour after that with a minimum of 6 hours or so.

Just a guesstimate on my part.

That's right on the money. I wouldn't hardly move and crank a D8 for less than $1500 on a day job. There's too much work out there for good operators

 

[treemanjohn]

5 acres of stumps planted on 12ft centers is a ton of stumps. Maybe 1500. Pulling them will never be cheap. You would be better off buying an older backhoe and keep it

 

[NE GA Pappy]

I understand those guys have to make a living, but i’m not paying anybody $500 to show up. I’d be glad to pay for a days work.

I have also thought about not clearing the stumps and planting in between the rows, which I believe are 12 ft. Maybe 10.

My only concern with this is the stumps potentially turning into fat lighter.

You don't understand what it takes to haul machinery around. It isn't like putting a 20hp lawnmower on a lite weight trailer and booging down the road at 60 mph.

to move a machine like that 5 miles is probably a 2 hour job. and then moving it again....

 

[NE GA Pappy]

That's right on the money. I wouldn't hardly move and crank a D8 for less than $1500 on a day job. There's too much work out there for good operators

I know to move my little D41 Komatsu it is anywhere from 150 to 200 bucks. People think you can throw a 40,000 pound dozer on a trailer and move it down the road in just a couple minutes. They don't understand that machine has to be buckled down, the trailer cleaned off of debris, and everything double checked before you can even think of cranking the road tractor. Then after you get it to the job, it all has to be undone, chains and bucks put away, unloaded and the trailer cleaned off again before the truck can leave the jobsite.

All an operator needs is for a rock to come off the trailer, bust a windshield and then his days wages are gone.

 

[COYOTE X]

I had the Ga. Forestry Service come out with a "Fire-Break" dozer (V-Blade) and 30,000 lb. Harrows. After completing the fire-breaks, I had the operator drive down the rows "Bumping" the stumps and plowing the rows chopping up roots. Twice per row.

That was the best $95.00 an hour I ever spent.

After several good rains, I hit it with harrows and smoothed up between the stumps.
They say the stumps will rot out quicker after being "Bumped". (28 year old pines) We shall see......

Good luck.

COYOTE X

 

[hayseed_theology]

Somebody running a Carlton Hurricane could knock it out, but like the dozer work, it ain't gonna be cheap.

 

[jiminbogart]

You don't understand what it takes to haul machinery around. It isn't like putting a 20hp lawnmower on a lite weight trailer and booging down the road at 60 mph.

to move a machine like that 5 miles is probably a 2 hour job. and then moving it again....

$350 for a one way local move. Any distance involved is big $$$.

No way I'd move one for $350. Tractor, lowboy, driver, overhead and an operator. No money there.

 

[JROESEL]

I will not load a John Deere 450, and haul it for less then 500$, and that d8 somebody mentioned, weighs 80,000 lbs, so yeah, it has to be a detach, permitted load, that John Deere 450 weighs about 19,000, but it still requires permit do to blade length, and almost all operators are slammed with back log right now, do to influx of work and the weather

 

[NE GA Pappy]

I had the Ga. Forestry Service come out with a "Fire-Break" dozer (V-Blade) and 30,000 lb. Harrows. After completing the fire-breaks, I had the operator drive down the rows "Bumping" the stumps and plowing the rows chopping up roots. Twice per row.

That was the best $95.00 an hour I ever spent.

After several good rains, I hit it with harrows and smoothed up between the stumps.
They say the stumps will rot out quicker after being "Bumped". (28 year old pines) We shall see......

Good luck.

COYOTE X

there was an article put on a thread in here somewhere about the pricing increases that GFS was putting in place. I think they are going to somewhere in the $160/hr neighborhood now, and there were other charges on top of that.

I searched but I didn't find the announcement

 

[bnew17]

Bringing this back from the dead. The tree cutting was pushed back, but thinking it may happen in the near future.

What about a V blade dozer? Seems like it would make short work of getting those stumps out.

 

[GeorgiaGlockMan]

I understand those guys have to make a living, but i’m not paying anybody $500 to show up. I’d be glad to pay for a days work.

I have also thought about not clearing the stumps and planting in between the rows, which I believe are 12 ft. Maybe 10.

My only concern with this is the stumps potentially turning into fat lighter.

That $500 comment tells me you've never done any work with big equipment operators.

All of them from a skidsteer to a 200T crane have a delivery, transportation or set-up fee.

Someone operating a CAT D9 won't even come out to work unless it is worth their while..
As in like a full 40-50 hr work week lined up. They may waive the setup charges but you are still paying for it.

Good luck. The trees cut for a 5th row are pretty small to start with. I let those rot away like was said 4-5 years and they'll be dirt.

 

[specialk]

That stump puller is not the most efficient way. Best way get excavator to pull em and pile. Then burn.

had this done some years back, guy piled them up as high as the arm would go, lit them and backed a bobcat close to the pile and tached it up with the exhaust blowing on the fire.....had 25ft flames in short order....never seen anything like it before.....

 

[bnew17]

That $500 comment tells me you've never done any work with big equipment operators.

All of them from a skidsteer to a 200T crane have a delivery, transportation or set-up fee.

Someone operating a CAT D9 won't even come out to work unless it is worth their while..
As in like a full 40-50 hr work week lined up. They may waive the setup charges but you are still paying for it.

Good luck. The trees cut for a 5th row are pretty small to start with. I let those rot away like was said 4-5 years and they'll be dirt.

I have paid $150 transportation fee before. That was for a dozer. Not real sure on the size but it was for grading a road. What area of the state are you referring to a $500 transport fee?

 

[GeorgiaGlockMan]

The $500 was your #. That would be a steal for some of the crane work I have set up.

My main bulldozer guy will waive his setup fee and daily home to work milage if I keep him going for a week.

I've used big equipment operators in every state except the Dakotas, Maine and hawaii. They all charge a fee of some sorts to get their equipment to your site. It's a business.

 

[Lilly001]

I’m watching this thread with interest.
I have about 3 acres that I had cut in a first thin that I want to turn into a pasture.
I can’t find anyone even interested enough to give me a price.
I’m in mid Ga near Dublin.

 

[bnew17]

The $500 was your #. That would be a steal for some of the crane work I have set up.

My main bulldozer guy will waive his setup fee and daily home to work milage if I keep him going for a week.

I've used big equipment operators in every state except the Dakotas, Maine and hawaii. They all charge a fee of some sorts to get their equipment to your site. It's a business.

I just read back and I was quoting someone else...but yeah if I was needing a crane or something of that size I could understand that type of fee. Thankfully I don't need anything of that size or there would be no question, the stumps would sit there and rot, lol.