I am not nearly as sophisticated as many on this forum are. I once tried to pick a fight on the atheist page. Sad that they knew more about the bible than myself and most of my church members did. Lots of bitterness towards the church. I don't want to poke the bear again here. I teach kids at Sunday School every week. We ditch the format and read the scripture and discuss it. You would be amazed at what kids can retain and learn! They love getting the truth straight from the bible. We have been on a long run of studying Paul's various letters to the church. Infact last week we covered Paul turning from his Jewish earned grace, law abiding righteousness, and his prideful pure Jewish heritage. He turned to the point where he decided to stop trying to offer his Jewish people Christ. Instead he would focus his attention on offering the Gentiles salvation. Seems salvation and grace though faith and love in Jesus Christ was better recieved by the Gentiles. Interesting that this forum lumps Christianity and Judaism together. Back in biblical days this was necessary. Christianity was a sect of Judaism. Rome considered us Christians to be a problem for Judaism. Not for the courts of Rome to deal with. So I wonder why we are lumped together here on this forum? Dumb luck? Is the hope that those of us that are saved and enjoying the freedom from our sins found through the Lord Jesus may offer hope and salvation to those that have denied Jesus as Lord? Or are we Christians still just a sect of Judaism?