CWD DETECTED IN ALABAMA DEER; HELP PREVENT SPREAD TO GEORGIA

buckpasser

Senior Member
I’ll take it a step further. If we’d never fenced cervids, we’d likely never have started CWD. If we’d have outlawed it once CWD was a thing, we’d never have spread it from a small area out west. It’s a little late now, but it’s insane that states haven’t done away with them everywhere. How do you feel about it @C.Killmaster?
 

Raylander

I’m Billy’s Useles Uncle.
@C.Killmaster As CWD continues to reach closer to home I can’t help but wonder what realistic challenges or proposes to us..

What, if any, research has been done to indicate danger of human consumption of a CWD positive deer?
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
I’ll take it a step further. If we’d never fenced cervids, we’d likely never have started CWD. If we’d have outlawed it once CWD was a thing, we’d never have spread it from a small area out west. It’s a little late now, but it’s insane that states haven’t done away with them everywhere. How do you feel about it @C.Killmaster?

I think it boils down to hindsight is 20/20. CWD was being spread with captive deer before anyone even knew what a prion was. Georgia has always been a far lower risk for CWD because we've never allowed a whitetail breeding industry. With the exception of New York most every new state contracting CWD has a smoking gun with live captive deer.

With that said, carcass parts can transmit the disease if the conditions are right. New York got CWD because a taxidermist who also had a permit to hold live deer threw scraps from his taxidermy work into the pen with live deer who licked the salt from CWD positive deer scraps in the pen he discarded them in.
 

Mattval

Senior Member
I do not understand why the federal govt is not all over this. If cwd jumps to cattle it would be catastrophic! But then again I am sure it would be turned into a political issue. Masks for cows. Social distancing for cattle.
IDK what do we need? Do we need massive amounts of money for research?
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
@C.Killmaster As CWD continues to reach closer to home I can’t help but wonder what realistic challenges or proposes to us..

What, if any, research has been done to indicate danger of human consumption of a CWD positive deer?

There has been a lot of research on it using transgenic (humanized) mice and monkeys that shows that human infection isn't likely. There's also the fact that it's been on the landscape for decades now and many CWD positive deer have been consumed, either knowingly or unknowingly, and no human cases.

I follow CDC guidance and feel perfectly comfortable with it. If I kill a deer in an area known to have CWD then I test it before I eat it. If it tests positive, I'll discard the meat. Could I possibly eat one that has CWD because the disease hasn't been discovered yet in the area I hunt? Sure, but that's a really slim chance and I'm okay with that level of risk.
 

bany

Senior Member
I do not understand why the federal govt is not all over this. If cwd jumps to cattle it would be catastrophic! But then again I am sure it would be turned into a political issue. Masks for cows. Social distancing for cattle.
IDK what do we need? Do we need massive amounts of money for research?

IMHO The federal government doesn’t jump on anything. I’d say the fed runs the other way. Take the hemlock forest that is decimated. Hundreds of miles largely on federal land. They probably even introduced a bug that made it worse. Take this Covid mess! O’ biden is ordering 500 million at home tests to give us for free!! For what? We may actually get herd immunity in the next couple weeks. They have “The States” as a scapegoat or whipping post. No accountability and can’t be held responsible.

Sorry, I got carried away. You’ll likely see the fed get on top of CWD when a couple Reps. or Senators have an inside track on getting very wealthy with the “cure”. But remember there is a good number that want US gun-less and dont give two cents for some dirty animal.
 

bany

Senior Member
No pen raised deer makes sense to me. Atleast until a time when there is a solution to eradicate this thing. I don’t see enough venison at the grocery or restaurants to stick in your eye. And what good comes from the freak rack farms if it leads to the annihilation of the species?
 

buckpasser

Senior Member
No pen raised deer makes sense to me. Atleast until a time when there is a solution to eradicate this thing. I don’t see enough venison at the grocery or restaurants to stick in your eye. And what good comes from the freak rack farms if it leads to the annihilation of the species?

Preach it!
 

TurkeyKiller12

Senior Member
@C.Killmaster would you recommend backing off of feeders or broadcasting of corn as a preventative measure? I am in north west GA. I do warm weather and cool weather plots along with there being a lot of natural food for deer during the warmer months. Is food plot usage as high of a risk at spreading the disease as a feeder or broadcasting of the corn on the ground. I'm very hopeful that the sportsman and woman of this state will take the right approach on this subject and not have a negative attitude about preventative measures. We all know deer hunting can bring out the worst in some people.
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
@C.Killmaster would you recommend backing off of feeders or broadcasting of corn as a preventative measure? I am in north west GA. I do warm weather and cool weather plots along with there being a lot of natural food for deer during the warmer months. Is food plot usage as high of a risk at spreading the disease as a feeder or broadcasting of the corn on the ground. I'm very hopeful that the sportsman and woman of this state will take the right approach on this subject and not have a negative attitude about preventative measures. We all know deer hunting can bring out the worst in some people.

Feeders can't really increase transmission of CWD if the disease doesn't already exist there and I wouldn't worry about food plots at all. Here are the primary things hunters can do to help prevent CWD in Georgia:

-Bone out any deer you kill out of state and send any scraps leftover from processing to a landfill. Spread the word to anyone you know that hunts out of state. It's really good practice not to throw carcass parts out on the landscape in a different area than where you killed the deer, send them to the landfill instead.
-Report any sick or strange acting deer to DNR Game Management.
-Report any sort of live deer importation to DNR Law Enforcement.
 

ucfireman

Senior Member
Will this result in decreased baiting in CWD positive areas or testing areas?
I see maybe a new law against baiting. In reality people will still bait and there will be no difference.

It's really good practice not to throw carcass parts out on the landscape in a different area than where you killed the deer, send them to the landfill instead.
Yeah, that will happen, not. But I agree.

What are the possibilities of it getting to other critters? Cows, Goats etc or being spread by scavengers that then spread the prions? Say and eagle eats from a carcass then poops and then something gets into the poop. Would it be transmissible?

Does UV kill the prions (would it break down in nature?)? if so maybe we can put something inside the body that could kill it. (sound familiar? Trump.)
 

shawnrice

Senior Member
I’m really glad Charlie is a member here. We are privileged to get info straight “from the horses mouth”. That said, I doubt I’ll get to be an old man without reading from him, on here, that it’s in GA. I also don’t think there’s any sense in really doing anything too drastic once it’s here. I just appreciate the ongoing testing and will also appreciate the monitoring once it’s here as I’m not planning to eat venison from a CWD area if I can help it. Thanks GADNR and @C.Killmaster! I’m glad you’re on this!
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Throwback

Chief Big Taw
What generally happens after this relevant to game management and impact on local herds?
If you bejng the wrong parts of a deer back into Georgia from Alabama you will be criminally charged and have a record for the rest of your life like a drug dealer
 

bfriendly

Bigfoot friendly
There has been a lot of research on it using transgenic (humanized) mice and monkeys that shows that human infection isn't likely. There's also the fact that it's been on the landscape for decades now and many CWD positive deer have been consumed, either knowingly or unknowingly, and no human cases.

I follow CDC guidance and feel perfectly comfortable with it. If I kill a deer in an area known to have CWD then I test it before I eat it. If it tests positive, I'll discard the meat. Could I possibly eat one that has CWD because the disease hasn't been discovered yet in the area I hunt? Sure, but that's a really slim chance and I'm okay with that level of risk.

Charlie thanks for being here sir. Ain’t gonna bombard you with questions but it’d be cool if you posted a link on how to get a deer someone killed tested. And it’s probably time we had a CWD sticky to refer to……..just throwing it out there
 

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