Dogging Bear Quota Hunt

[Buckman18]

Again, the timing. If the timing of the hunt was between the end of archery and before the first normal gun hunt, nobody would care. But no, the state decides to shaft the folks who are loyal to these WMA’s, the same folks who pay the lease, pay for the roads, pay for the food plots, pay for the wildlife techs who manage them, and pay for the arrogant bosses who manage the techs who made that decision. They scheduled this hunt so that non residents who hunt Tennessee and North Carolina could hunt Georgia. It’s a shame.

Nothing wrong with being uneducated about a subject, but spinning it to suit your agenda is out right wrong. This hunt wasn’t asked for by non resident hunters. It’s been fought and begged for by the bear hunters in your very own state that showed up in numbers and presented factual data to biologists and game management for years. They did it legally and finally had their voice heard. I’m sorry you had your feelings hurt but last year the second archery hunt was 18 days and this year it’s 16 days. The first hunt wasn’t effected. I've read enough of a couple of you fellas comments to see that this isn’t about anything more than you don’t won’t to share. Enough to also see that you hunt 3 Saturday’s out of an 18 day seasons and think these WMAs are pressured hard. Try them Monday-Thurs. You will find your archery deer cult is none existent for the most part except for me and a few others who take our hunting seriously.
Hahahaha, I guess WMA archery hunters are the only ones that pay license fees. The rest of us dog hunters and Small game hunters should quit buying license since our funds aren’t used! I’ll just keep giving my money to the other states I buy out of state license in!
Again, most of you are watching way more YouTube videos and reading way more message boards than actual real life experience. That’s fine but please keep your 3rd person opinions set aside from actual experience from first hand knowledge. This is starting to get hysterical. I think I’ll let y’all have your small little world back so you can wallow in it![/QUOTE]

Heath,
Nobody cares that the dog hunt is happening. If I get drawn, my folks have bear dogs. I’m willing to bet our dogs are better than your dogs. Everyone that bow hunts is upset about the timing. And I’ll leave the rest of the strange assumptions you pull out of thin air for you to wallow in.

 

[Timberman]

All I know is I’m gonna be way up high on a big rock somewhere the morning of the 28th to see and hear it!

 

[livinoutdoors]

Man ! I hope these bear dogs have better manners than some of yall are sayin, cuz at least one of them wmas is popular with dog walking hippie hiker types. Gonna be a pretty short lived idea if ya cant keep your dogs behavin on PUBLIC land

 

[Hillbilly stalker]

Again, you are confusing grit and aggression. Entirely different. Dogs will have one or the other or neither or both. If you choose to put up with aggression, don’t assume that everyone else does.

Mister I'm not gonna argue with you, I'm not confusing the 2. Most people don't know the difference, but I do. I have trained multiple Patrol dogs, Belgian Malinois, Dutch Shepard's, Bouvier, German Shepard's and Rottweiler and a few Goldens for Narcotic detection. . I've grew up hunting hounds, curs and feist. I know how to bring the aggression out in a dog and I know how to handle it. Some have grit some don't. Most of the dogs I have mentioned have edge on them, not that they don't have a pack drive, but they have an edge. Majority of hounds have a stronger prey and pack drive. I don't put up with pure aggression out of a hunting dog, but a lot of times people don't recognize what they have seen. I hope every body has a great safe hunt. Now feel free to have the last word.

 

[wks41]

im Not a dog hunter but if I were I’d be upset at the way a couple of you are acting and representing the culture. It’s not a good look.

 

[Tio Hey Seuss]

The folks who scheduled this hunt in the middle of, and ruining, archery season for the scores of RESIDENT archery hunters who hunt those WMAs, should be kicked in the nuts.

Again, the timing. If the timing of the hunt was between the end of archery and before the first normal gun hunt, nobody would care. But no, the state decides to shaft the folks who are loyal to these WMA’s, the same folks who pay the lease, pay for the roads, pay for the food plots, pay for the wildlife techs who manage them, and pay for the arrogant bosses who manage the techs who made that decision. They scheduled this hunt so that non residents who hunt Tennessee and North Carolina could hunt Georgia. It’s a shame.

If someone else getting to hunt one area for one week AFTER you get TWO WEEKS to have first crack at it ruins your archery season then you sir are not the hunter I thought you were. There are 450,000 other acres of CNF you can hunt if you're afraid of the hound hunters messing things up. Hunt coopers creek, swallow creek or warwoman if you really really need the food plots on a wma to be successful.
Also, you're completely off base about who pays for the costs of maintaining a WMA. It is not locals. The money comes from Pitman-Roberts taxes (collected nationally and distributed based on state population) and license revenue. A resident sportsman license costs $65 while a non-resident costs $400. I'd say they're paying their fair share for 7 days of hunting.

 

[strothershwacker]

Good luck to all this season! Regardless of yer preferred huntin style. And quit the crying already! Sound like a buncha sissies!

 

[Joe Brandon]

Admins can we go a head and get these dog boys and their sympathizers their own little sub forum so we can get back to the comrade-re we typically share on here? The deer doggers have a sub forum. Let each hunt together or separate as much as they want.

 

[Heath]

Admins can we go a head and get these dog boys and their sympathizers their own little sub forum so we can get back to the comrade-re we typically share on here? The deer doggers have a sub forum. Let each hunt together or separate as much as they want.

Why? Why can’t we all share the same resources without it being your way or the highway. The only reason I responded to any of this in the first place was because we dog hunters are being misrepresented in the first place. I don’t know why the two sides can’t agree to share. Its always baffled me because I enjoy both worlds and the two have never been a problem for me. I train dogs in the same places that I still hunt, coon hunt where I deer hunt. Most times I scout ground doing one that helps while doing the other. You get an extremely small sample size on these forums and most don’t understand the other side of the fence. For some reason each side feels theirs is right and the other is wrong. If my posts seem that I favor one over the other, I’m sorry to have misrepresented my thoughts. Both sides deserve equal opportunity, it’s hard for me to see where any group should have more hunting opportunities than another being as we are all suppose to be equal.
I’ve never seen all these “Gritty” bear dogs cause nearly as many problems as the people that own them. Please don’t judge an entire group for a few bad apples. I know plenty of dog hunters that are respectful and down right good dog men that don’t have any problems with anyone and have never had there dogs jump on someone’s pet. That is all negative propaganda that all hunters should work to remove from our midst. Weather it’s intentional sabotage or they really don’t know any better.
I’m elated that we live in a place where we have opportunities in hunting growing by leaps and bounds. Seems some would be more content to snuff it out!

 

[Buckman18]

If someone else getting to hunt one area for one week AFTER you get TWO WEEKS to have first crack at it ruins your archery season then you sir are not the hunter I thought you were. There are 450,000 other acres of CNF you can hunt if you're afraid of the hound hunters messing things up. Hunt coopers creek, swallow creek or warwoman if you really really need the food plots on a wma to be successful.
Also, you're completely off base about who pays for the costs of maintaining a WMA. It is not locals. The money comes from Pitman-Roberts taxes (collected nationally and distributed based on state population) and license revenue. A resident sportsman license costs $65 while a non-resident costs $400. I'd say they're paying their fair share for 7 days of hunting.

George W Bush said the best way to get a point across is Repetition, Repetition, Repetition...

I have no problem with the hunt, just the timing. The archery hunters are getting the shaft. Our RESIDENT archery hunters. I shouldn’t have to drive elsewhere to hunt when I live 10 minutes from a WMA, although I’ve killed at all the ones you’ve mentioned, and many more.

And, Tio, food plots ain’t my scene. I just pay for them.

 

[Joe Brandon]

Why? Why can’t we all share the same resources without it being your way or the highway. The only reason I responded to any of this in the first place was because we dog hunters are being misrepresented in the first place. I don’t know why the two sides can’t agree to share. Its always baffled me because I enjoy both worlds and the two have never been a problem for me. I train dogs in the same places that I still hunt, coon hunt where I deer hunt. Most times I scout ground doing one that helps while doing the other. You get an extremely small sample size on these forums and most don’t understand the other side of the fence. For some reason each side feels theirs is right and the other is wrong. If my posts seem that I favor one over the other, I’m sorry to have misrepresented my thoughts. Both sides deserve equal opportunity, it’s hard for me to see where any group should have more hunting opportunities than another being as we are all suppose to be equal.
I’ve never seen all these “Gritty” bear dogs cause nearly as many problems as the people that own them. Please don’t judge an entire group for a few bad apples. I know plenty of dog hunters that are respectful and down right good dog men that don’t have any problems with anyone and have never had there dogs jump on someone’s pet. That is all negative propaganda that all hunters should work to remove from our midst. Weather it’s intentional sabotage or they really don’t know any better.
I’m elated that we live in a place where we have opportunities in hunting growing by leaps and bounds. Seems some would be more content to snuff it out!

Nope obviously not. Ya'll have done nothing but come on here and raise ruckus. Havent seen alot of you on the forum until now. And there has been nothing but bashing. We dont operate that way. Hog/dog, deer/dog have their own subs and I see why. Yall will have your own soon enough.

 

[Tio Hey Seuss]

George W Bush said the best way to get a point across is Repetition, Repetition, Repetition...

I have no problem with the hunt, just the timing. The archery hunters are getting the shaft. Our RESIDENT archery hunters. I shouldn’t have to drive elsewhere to hunt when I live 10 minutes from a WMA, although I’ve killed at all the ones you’ve mentioned, and many more.

And, Tio, food plots ain’t my scene. I just pay for them.

If food plots aren't your scene then why are you crapping a brick over hunting WMA'S? Food plots are the only thing that distinguishes WMA from the rest of NF.
Once again, being a resident doesn't matter even the slightest because non-residents pay close to 4x what you do to maintain our WMA's. In fact, you should probably thank them for giving money to an area you get to enjoy more than them, since it's 10 minutes from your house.
What this boils down to is you feel entitled to more than someone else who buys into the same system.
How do you figure archery hunters are getting the shaft when you get twice as much time AND you get to go first? I archery hunt and I could care less about hound hunters coming in and cleaning up my leftovers.

 

[Pig Predator]

The archery hunters do realize that they can archery hunt all the way through to January 31st in some counties, Right? Just because rifle opens doesn't mean that you have to hunt with a rifle....

 

[Buckman18]

If food plots aren't your scene then why are you crapping a brick over hunting WMA'S? Food plots are the only thing that distinguishes WMA from the rest of NF.
Once again, being a resident doesn't matter even the slightest because non-residents pay close to 4x what you do to maintain our WMA's. In fact, you should probably thank them for giving money to an area you get to enjoy more than them, since it's 10 minutes from your house.
What this boils down to is you feel entitled to more than someone else who buys into the same system.
How do you figure archery hunters are getting the shaft when you get twice as much time AND you get to go first? I archery hunt and I could care less about hound hunters coming in and cleaning up my leftovers.

There’s an easy solution for the dog hunt: schedule it to take place between the end of the traditional archery season and before the first traditional rifle hunt.

Nobody is negatively impacted that way. And the dog hunters, myself included, get to hunt more. It would be a win win for everyone. How would they do this in Meriwether County?

 

[Tio Hey Seuss]

The archery hunters do realize that they can archery hunt all the way through to January 31st in some counties, Right? Just because rifle opens doesn't mean that you have to hunt with a rifle....

But...but...dogs...and guns...and out of state hunters...whaaa ?

 

[Pig Predator]

There’s an easy solution for the dog hunt: schedule it to take place between the end of the traditional archery season and before the first traditional rifle hunt.

Nobody is negatively impacted that way. And the dog hunters, myself included, get to hunt more. It would be a win win for everyone. How would they do this in Meriwether County?

No, then I think the rifle hunters would feel like they got the short straw.

 

[Buckman18]

No, then I think the rifle hunters would feel like they got the short straw.

The rifle hunters wouldn’t be giving up a thing?

 

[Tio Hey Seuss]

No, then I think the rifle hunters would feel like they got the short straw.

Argeed. Stunning logic at work there. "Just take it away from someone besides me, then everyone wins."?

 

[Tio Hey Seuss]

The rifle hunters wouldn’t be giving up a thing?

Either them or black powder would loose days if you did it that way. Unless we make the year longer.

 

[Buckman18]

Either them or black powder would loose days if you did it that way. Unless we make the year longer.

There are no scheduled black powder or rifle hunts during that time. Or in the first 3 weeks of November. Or nearly the entire month of December. Or any kind of big game hunting scheduled the first 2 weeks of September this year.

Like I said, either way. I’m a winner. Odds are I’ll be tagged out before the scheduled dog hunt anyway, so I’ll probably just be hanging with the fam trying to get nephews and cousins and my daughter bears if we get drawn.