Fall Garden

B. White

Senior Member
I picked up a 40yo jon boat and have been replacing trailer bearings, adding electronics, etc., so I've neglected my weed pulling. Got back at it today and I'm thankful to have some green stuff here in the desert using the drip tape from the spring. I had to replant another area with a few rows of sugar snap and spinach last week where I didn't have the tape down. I added the tape and put some water to it and it is sprouting. At least the ground holds water better than it did in the summer. Sowed crimson clover to all bare spots and it will have to wait for rain.

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livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
I got turnips up n running. Daikons going good so far. Cabbage, collards, kale just gettin started really. Its been a hard fall so far.
 

B. White

Senior Member
Got Mustard and Rutagaga doing good ....my turnips, Kale and carrots not much at all ...I think I got bad seed ...

I've never had luck with carrots, but holding off a few more days and trying to see of lower ground temps will help my luck.

I have some of my wife's elephant garlic from last year in an onion bag that I need to put out there. Last year was her first trying it, so I saved it all to replant and see if it is worth messing with.
 

BriarPatch99

Senior Member
I planted all the seed in the same manner ...Mustard popped right up ...very few turnips.. very few carrots ...plant the Rutabaga a couple days later ...they popped up quick ...

Having to run the sprinkler every other day ...just flat dry as a powder house here..
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
I've never had luck with carrots, but holding off a few more days and trying to see of lower ground temps will help my luck.

I have some of my wife's elephant garlic from last year in an onion bag that I need to put out there. Last year was her first trying it, so I saved it all to replant and see if it is worth messing with.
I have a trick for carrots i got from someone and it works. Take a rake or hoe and press the handle long ways in the dirt to make a small shallow trench, if that makes sense? Then sow your seeds right in the trench. Knock just a teeny tiny bit of dirt on em then soak the row. Keep it wet till they come up. Some folks put a tarp or something over the row to keep the moisture in till they pop up. If they dry out before they germinate they wont come up. Has worked for me?
 

B. White

Senior Member
I have a trick for carrots i got from someone and it works. Take a rake or hoe and press the handle long ways in the dirt to make a small shallow trench, if that makes sense? Then sow your seeds right in the trench. Knock just a teeny tiny bit of dirt on em then soak the row. Keep it wet till they come up. Some folks put a tarp or something over the row to keep the moisture in till they pop up. If they dry out before they germinate they wont come up. Has worked for me?

I think I failed in the spring because the temps got unusually hot early. I read somewhere after planting that they would not germinate if too hot and we hit some 90s early, so I've been waiting and will try when rain is closer in the forecast.
 

sportsman94

Senior Member
I took the day off work yesterday to get mine planted. Disked the already disked dirt, ran a potato plow through to make furrows, laid drip tape, ran it to check for and fix leaks, added compost and planted. My transplants don’t look the greatest, but hopefully they’ll snap out of it. Transplanted broccoli, kale, cabbage, collards, and lettuce. In addition to the transplants I also direct seeded some English peas, spinach, and carrots

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B. White

Senior Member
I've never grown and probably never ate chard until now. Picked some with some lettuce and a dark smooth-leaved kale and made a salad. It was pretty good. I think I will try cooking some down with some onions and putting it in an omelet. I'm surprised I don't hear more about it, since looking at recipes there seems to be a lots of ways to use it. It is growing faster than some of the other greens.
 

fishfryer

frying fish driveler
I took the day off work yesterday to get mine planted. Disked the already disked dirt, ran a potato plow through to make furrows, laid drip tape, ran it to check for and fix leaks, added compost and planted. My transplants don’t look the greatest, but hopefully they’ll snap out of it. Transplanted broccoli, kale, cabbage, collards, and lettuce. In addition to the transplants I also direct seeded some English peas, spinach, and carrots

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sportsman94

Senior Member
Three week update on mine. Looking a lot better and last nights rain will hopefully help even more. I experimented with adding chicken run compost to some rows and not to others. Truly amazing at the difference between the two. The third pictures shows three rows of broccoli with compost added and you can barely see the fourth row that didn’t have it added. The row without it is twice as small as the rows with compost


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B. White

Senior Member
We did not get much rain. The dirt is wet where I turned on the drip tape Monday, since I had planted the carrots and also added some onion sets I saved from the spring and elephant garlic to the skips in the kale and chard. Everything else was dry enough to hoe by lunchtime. My clover I planted about a month ago is just starting to come up in the bare spots, so I hope we get some more rain over the weekend.

We are keeping the collards cut back and eating some every couple of days. Collards and eggs was the main dish last night.

Turnips and mustard are surviving, but not growing much with no water on them. It is a good think I like radishes cooked in bacon fat and butter.



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bnew17

Senior Member
I picked up a 40yo jon boat and have been replacing trailer bearings, adding electronics, etc., so I've neglected my weed pulling. Got back at it today and I'm thankful to have some green stuff here in the desert using the drip tape from the spring. I had to replant another area with a few rows of sugar snap and spinach last week where I didn't have the tape down. I added the tape and put some water to it and it is sprouting. At least the ground holds water better than it did in the summer. Sowed crimson clover to all bare spots and it will have to wait for rain.

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Is it too late to plant sugar snaps? I am in Middle Ga.
 

B. White

Senior Member
Is it too late to plant sugar snaps? I am in Middle Ga.

Someone else may have experience, but I have never planted any later than Sept. What I planted the first week of Sept. are just now blooming. I didn't have drip tape out and it was so dry I had to replant part of it late Sept. and they probably are just up about 4" now.

If it is a typical December and stays above 20 most of the time you might get some around New Years. Most seed charts I've seen said Sept. Some of the UGA extension charts I saved don't have a recommended fall date. I like to experiment, so I'd try it if the ground is ready and you have seed.
 

B. White

Senior Member
Three week update on mine. Looking a lot better and last nights rain will hopefully help even more. I experimented with adding chicken run compost to some rows and not to others. Truly amazing at the difference between the two. The third pictures shows three rows of broccoli with compost added and you can barely see the fourth row that didn’t have it added. The row without it is twice as small as the rows with compost


Did you till in the compost, or just spread it on top? I've got a couple of piles aging I will start using in the spring, if the pine shavings look like they have broken down enough.
 

sportsman94

Senior Member
I created a furrow, filled it with the compost, and covered back up with the garden soil. I wish I had enough to cover the whole garden, but don’t have that much. I do have access to a couple dozen piles of wood chips that are a year old or more. I normally move them from where they are to the chicken run, let the chickens work them for a few months, and then move them to a garden. I took a soil sample from the compost and it’s high in every category, but I wasn’t sure how much the plants were able to take it up quickly
 

Big7

The Oracle
All the pics look good guys.

I wish I had a place and wish I had taken full advantage when I did have a place. ?

What's the difference in drip tape and soaker hose? Thanks.
 

B. White

Senior Member
All the pics look good guys.

I wish I had a place and wish I had taken full advantage when I did have a place. ?

What's the difference in drip tape and soaker hose? Thanks.

You can buy your drip tape with emitters spaced to fit your row, like 8" or 12", and choose what mil thickness you want, so you should use less water. I think it is also cheaper to setup, once you have the filter and reusable fittings. 500' of 15mil tape that drips every 8" is $64.24 right now. The tape is flat if no water flowing to it, so it is light and easy to deal with when cultivating, if you have it on top. You can also bury it. Drip tape runs off of a poly main line and you add a pressure regulator and filter.

The place below has a pretty good help/learning website. The choices of sizes and styles of poly tubing, line and fittings are confusing, but I think they had a learning section for most all components.


 

cjones

Senior Member
Great looking late gardens! We ended up missing the boat and didn't get anything in for the fall, so our plots are sitting dormant through the winter unfortunately.

RE: Drip tape vs. soaker hose - I think drip tape has more consistent flow than soaker hose. There are 'emitters' at each hole in the drip tape that do better at controlling volume of water released where a soaker hose (in my experience) can sometimes be heavier at one end or the other or in a low spot in the middle. And as B. White mentioned - you can get drip tape with different spacing of emitters, so you can get some with wide spacing to line up with individual plants or you can get them closer together to cover a row of something sowed. You can also get different rated emitters - 1gph, .5gph, etc. so you can tinker with things like that, too. Ex: This year, I had some 12" spaced 1gph tape (1 emitter at each plant, and one between - I wish I had gotten wider spaced tape) on my tomatoes and I had some 6" spaced .5gph emitters on cucumbers. I could turn the main line on and let both runs go for the same amount of time and get the same total amount of water out for each plant type. It's really simple to install - it's all pretty much screw-on compression fittings, so you can tinker with it a lot, too. :)
 

B. White

Senior Member
I finally got some carrots to pop up this week after the last rain. I used the same method as the last time I tried, except waited for the ground to get much cooler after I read somewhere they won't germinate in warm soil.

Home-grown onion sets from the spring are taking off. I saved anything too small to cook with from the summer and planted anywhere I had skips. It looks like all of them are up with the average about 4" high and some over double that in the last 12 days.

On the 29th I planted 20ft or so of row with about $4.00 worth of grocery store garlic. It was Spice World brand and said Morado garlic from Spain on the label. Trying it for fun to see if I can get it to make anything. I expected it not to come up for a while, but already had some sprouting this morning.
 
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