Fort Mountain then Cherokee then Vogel

T-N-T

Senior Member
Never been to the two GA parks before.
Have not been to Cherokee in about 21 years.

Gonna make a week of it this 4th of July

4 nights three nights then two nights.

There will be muchos cervesas consumed on that trip....there was last year on a similar trip.

Must see or do opinions? - no kids
 
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walters

Senior Member
Sounds good

That sounds like a plan , I've been to Cherokee several times, and been to Vogel, that's a climb from my way over that blood MTN. But a beautiful state park, never been to other one
Fort mountain.
 

T-N-T

Senior Member
I know we will have a good time. I have heard good things about Vogel. Never heard anything about Fort Mountain but the pics look good on their site

Cherokee will be a good time I'm certain. Already bought tickets for Unto These Hills. ( A play that has been running since the 50's ) I went as a kid some time or another and remember a little about it, but not much... Front row and center is easy to get when you buy tickets a few months out for an outdoor amphitheater.
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
Fort Mountain SP is up there at 2,782 feet. Nice in July. I think only Blackrock Mtn SP is higher at 3,640 feet.

From Fort Mountain you could tour the Chief Vann House in Chatsworth. Edna's restaurant has some good country cooking.

Vogel is one of the most popular state parks in Georgia. Brasstown Bald is close by. Could hike to the top of Blood Mountain. Blairsville is close. Probably some nice places to eat there. I haven't bee there in awhile.

Cherokee probably looks pretty close to the way it did 21 years ago except for the Casino. You could ride through the Smokys over to Gatlinburg. Hike to Clingman's Dome.
Ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Ride the Great Smoky Railroad. Raft the Nantahala or the Tuckaseegee. The Tuckaseegee outfitters are between Cherokee and Dillsboro. Its a more laid back experience. Better for small children.
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
I would also recommend mining for rubies and sapphires in the Cowee Valley near Franklin. Unsalted mines for grownups and kids over 10.
You can find real rubies and sapphires.

Cherokee Ruby & Sapphire Mine is our favorite. Their rubies are red. Sheffield is good for sapphires along with Masons. At Masons you dig your own dirt. At the others you buy buckets of dirt.

Still Cherokee is our favorite as you can find red rubies. Rubies are suppose to be red. In fact a red sapphire is a ruby. If it's blue or purple, it's a sapphire.
 

Miguel Cervantes

Jedi Master
Fort Mountain SP is up there at 2,782 feet. Nice in July. I think only Blackrock Mtn SP is higher at 3,640 feet.

From Fort Mountain you could tour the Chief Vann House in Chatsworth. Edna's restaurant has some good country cooking.

Vogel is one of the most popular state parks in Georgia. Brasstown Bald is close by. Could hike to the top of Blood Mountain. Blairsville is close. Probably some nice places to eat there. I haven't bee there in awhile.

Cherokee probably looks pretty close to the way it did 21 years ago except for the Casino. You could ride through the Smokys over to Gatlinburg. Hike to Clingman's Dome.
Ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Ride the Great Smoky Railroad. Raft the Nantahala or the Tuckaseegee. The Tuckaseegee outfitters are between Cherokee and Dillsboro. Its a more laid back experience. Better for small children.

Cherokee has turned into a commercialized "made in china" rubber tomahawk gambling pit of a joke. It is nothing like it was when I was a kid so I wasn't very impressed after our visit a couple of years ago.

Haven't been to Fort Mountain, it is on my list though.

Vogel is beautiful, albeit crowded and if you don't have reservations for a spot that week you most likely won't get them now. If you like a little History, right down the road is the Byron Herbert Reece Museum and Homestead (poet laureate of Ga) and it's just a few more minutes up the road to Blue Ridge and some fine dining.

Black Rock Mountain is my happy place, but not many folks can drag a camper up that mountain. If you like some decent hiking and some great views it is the place. Up the mountain from the campsites you'll hit the Continental Divide in Ga. Down the mountain is the lake and some decent fishing. Some great restaurants down in Clayton too. From mom-n-pop home cooking to 5 star cuisine.

Tallulah Gorge State Park has a great easy access RV park too, with lots of hiking and a decent wildlife museum.

I guess it depends on whether your tent camping or RV camping, and what you like to do, whether it be hiking, enjoying nature or hitting the town and enjoying digging in antique stores, night life or gambling.

Oh, and don't forget Cloudland Canyon State Park. The views and hiking is spectacular, but you'd better be a nature lover for that one. There are no other options once you get up there.
 

NCHillbilly

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Cherokee has turned into a commercialized "made in china" rubber tomahawk gambling pit of a joke. It is nothing like it was when I was a kid so I wasn't very impressed after our visit a couple of years ago.

Haven't been to Fort Mountain, it is on my list though.

Vogel is beautiful, albeit crowded and if you don't have reservations for a spot that week you most likely won't get them now. If you like a little History, right down the road is the Byron Herbert Reece Museum and Homestead (poet laureate of Ga) and it's just a few more minutes up the road to Blue Ridge and some fine dining.

Black Rock Mountain is my happy place, but not many folks can drag a camper up that mountain. If you like some decent hiking and some great views it is the place. Up the mountain from the campsites you'll hit the Continental Divide in Ga. Down the mountain is the lake and some decent fishing. Some great restaurants down in Clayton too. From mom-n-pop home cooking to 5 star cuisine.

Tallulah Gorge State Park has a great easy access RV park too, with lots of hiking and a decent wildlife museum.

I guess it depends on whether your tent camping or RV camping, and what you like to do, whether it be hiking, enjoying nature or hitting the town and enjoying digging in antique stores, night life or gambling.

Oh, and don't forget Cloudland Canyon State Park. The views and hiking is spectacular, but you'd better be a nature lover for that one. There are no other options once you get up there.

In the 50 years I've lived a few miles away from it, the town of Cherokee has never been anything except "a commercialized "made in china" rubber tomahawk gambling pit of a joke." Never remember it not being. The only difference is the casino replaced the tribal bingo. The only real things in town are the museum and the Oconoluftee Living Indian Village. Lot of nice country around it though. I do a lot of fishing on those Oconoluftee headwaters in the national park.
 

660griz

Senior Member
Last time, and hopefully the last time, I was in Cherokee, I had to drive 12 miles to get a beer so, take them with you if you want one. :)

I like to hit the flea markets just north of Clayton. Mostly crap but, you never know when you may need 30 or 40 cozies for $10.
 

T-N-T

Senior Member
We hit cloudland last year. Great park!
Black Rock was on the list for this trip but their spots are limited to 25' and we are 33'.

Cherokee is loaded with rubber tomahawk crap I know. But I'm going anyway. Even got tickets to the play like I said. I might even go give the casino a few bucks because I've never been in one....

But thanks so much for the recommendations on other stuff!!!
 

T-N-T

Senior Member
And I cannot thank you enough 660griz. I will carry my own beers and let Cherokee miss out on yet another bit of tax income
 

whitetailfreak

Senior Member
In the 50 years I've lived a few miles away from it, the town of Cherokee has never been anything except "a commercialized "made in china" rubber tomahawk gambling pit of a joke." Never remember it not being. The only difference is the casino replaced the tribal bingo. The only real things in town are the museum and the Oconoluftee Living Indian Village. Lot of nice country around it though. I do a lot of fishing on those Oconoluftee headwaters in the national park.

I've gotta admit, I sat on Chief Henry's lap a time or 3 as a kid and got polaroided.
 

NCHillbilly

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And I cannot thank you enough 660griz. I will carry my own beers and let Cherokee miss out on yet another bit of tax income

Yep, the whole rez is dry. And Jackson and Swain counties only sell alcohol inside city limits.
 

Miguel Cervantes

Jedi Master
Yep, the whole rez is dry. And Jackson and Swain counties only sell alcohol inside city limits.

You can buy alcoholic drinks in Harrah's Casino, but they're proud of them. Mostly beer and wine, they have a limited selection on mixed drinks.

I wonder if they'd notice someone slippin in with a mason jar? :rofl:
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
I liked going to Cherokee when I was a kid. We always camped at Shoals Creek Campground. Lots of other kids, a creek, and a pool.
We went to an amusement park called Frontier Land. It was where the casino is now. It had an old west town as did Ghost Town and another one called Gold City. I think Gold City was between Franklin and Dillsboro.
We also went to Gatlinburg. Mostly just to drive through the mountains.
Now I'd rather camp on the frontcountry or on the tubing river near Townsend, TN. Could check out Cades Cove. I've always wanted to drive through the Cataloochee Valley. Maybe even camp there as well. Maybe camp at Moonshine Creek Campground in Sylva or another private campground near there or Maggie Valley. That was when my kids were little.

Now I'd like to camp at the Balsam Mountain National Park Campground.

Another area that kids like is the Pisgah NF above Brevard, NC.
That's where the famous Sliding Rock is located. Davidson River campground is popular.

Nice drive between Brevard and Franklin. There are some roads off the beaten path near Highlands with nice views of Whiteside Mountain. These are Whiteside Cove Road, Bull Pen Road, & Horse Cove Road.

http://www.stayandplayinthesmokies.com/vendor/whiteside-cove-road/
 
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AM1

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We have camped at both Fort Mt. and Vogel many times (we average 4 trips/year). Fort mtn sites are closer to the water, but Vogel's sites are not much further and an easy flat walk. Both have gone site specific this year which is both good and bad. Vogel is about 4 miles from Grandaddy Mimms distillery (if you like your libations with a kick). Neither has good cell service. Kudos on Ednas at the foot of Fort Mt. in Chatsworth. About 20-30 minutes from Vogel in Cleveland is Glendas which is my #1 place for home cooking.
 

Crakajak

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Stop by the Dillard house if it ain't burnt up .
 

Nicodemus

The Recluse
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I know we will have a good time. I have heard good things about Vogel. Never heard anything about Fort Mountain but the pics look good on their site

Cherokee will be a good time I'm certain. Already bought tickets for Unto These Hills. ( A play that has been running since the 50's ) I went as a kid some time or another and remember a little about it, but not much... Front row and center is easy to get when you buy tickets a few months out for an outdoor amphitheater.



Unto These Hills is a must see. Highly recommended.
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
Unto These Hills is a must see. Highly recommended.

It ain't what it was 20 years ago. We went 3 years back and I was disappointed in the production.

a good day trip outta Cherokee would be the sliding rock over at Brevard. You can take the Blue Ridge parkway if you aren't in a hurry. Some beautiful country up there. The rock is a nice place to cool off. I think parking is $4 and you can slide all day if you want to, nothing extra.

carry a towel and dry clothes and be prepared for cold water. It is about 55 degrees in the summer
 

Nicodemus

The Recluse
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It ain't what it was 20 years ago. We went 3 years back and I was disappointed in the production.

a good day trip outta Cherokee would be the sliding rock over at Brevard. You can take the Blue Ridge parkway if you aren't in a hurry. Some beautiful country up there. The rock is a nice place to cool off. I think parking is $4 and you can slide all day if you want to, nothing extra.

carry a towel and dry clothes and be prepared for cold water. It is about 55 degrees in the summer



Sorry to hear that. When I went in 1965, it was a good show. Things change, I reckon.
 

Pig Predator

Useles Billy’s Fishel Hog Killer ?
Hey dynomite. Hit up brasstown bald in blairsville and bell mtn in hiawassee. Awesome 360* views. Barneys is good to eat in hiawassee and cooks country kitchen is good in blairsville(my wife is a waitress there).
 
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