God Is Ominipotent

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Within God's own realm He is omnipotent, but there are certain spheres in which He does not and cannot operate; and there are certain things He cannot do. We must therefore be sensible when we consider omnipotence--unlimited and universal power and authority within a certain sphere, or of a certain kind. God is Almighty and omnipotent in His own right creation and redemption, and in His plan for man and all creations; but He has limited Himself in His dealings with free moral agents. He respects their will power and He gives them absolute right to act of their own free choice to conform to His will and consecrate themselves to the highest good of being and of the universe. He has laid down laws whereby they should live and conduct themselves, and has made penalties for all sin and rewards for all acts of obedience. In these matters God is omnipotent, but there are certain things He cannot do.
 

gemcgrew

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You exercise free will and free choice in order to worship an ignorant, impotent god?

Why not choose to worship the God of the Bible?
 
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You exercise free will and free choice in order to worship an ignorant, impotent god?

Why not choose to worship the God of the Bible?
I notice you don't give Scripture on your reply, Guess your Bible don't teach you not to judge anyone !
 
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God cannot: lie ( Heb. 6:17-19 ); deny Himself, or act contrary to His eternal truth ( 2 Tim. 2:13 ); have respect of persons ( Rom. 2:11; Col. 3:25; 2 Pet. 1:17 ); save a soul apart from faith and grace in Christ ( Rom. 3:25; Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:8-9 ); bless men who meet contrary to faith in His Word ( Heb. 11:6; Jas. 1:5-8; Jn. 15:7 ); curse men who meet His conditions ( Mk. 1:15; 16:16; Lk. 13:1-5; 1 Jn. 1:9 ); change His eternal plan ( Acts 15:18; Eph. 2:7; 3:11 ); save rebels who persist in rebellion, refusing to meet His terms ( Pr. 1:22-33; 29:1 ); be tempted to do evil or tempt man with evil ( Jas. 1:13-15); forgive unconfessed sin ( Lk. 13:1-5; 1 Jn. 1:9 ); and keep one saved who turns back to sin and lives in rebellion ( Gen. 2:17; Ezek. 3:17-21; 18:4-24; 33:7-16; Mk. 7:19-21; Rom. 1:21-32; 6:16-23; 8:12, 13; Gal. 5:19-21; 6:7, 8; Col. 3:5-10 ).
 

watermedic

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According to the bible God is:

Omnipotent- all powerful.
Omniscient- all knowing.
Omnipresent- all present (present everywhere)

That being said, he gives us the ability to make choices, good or bad.
 
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God limits Himself according to His own revelation of Himself, along other lines, whether by nature or by choice is not always stated. For example God's compassion and love can be considered infinite and all-comprehensive, yet He naturally has to limit the exercise of His love to those that will not conform to His plan (Ex. 20:5, 6; John. 3:16-18 ). God has had to punish people whom He one time had compassion for. His faithfulness can be spoken of as infinite, but He must limit it according to His plan for those who merit it ( Ex. 32:7-14; 30-35 ). We speak of the infinite Fatherhood of God, yet He has to limit His parenthood to those who will become His children according to His plan ( Luke 11:9-13; Acts 5:32; Heb. 12:5-10). We speak of God's infinite grace, yet He has limited it to those that will humbly receive it ( Rom. 12:3-8; Titus 2:11-13). We speak of God's infinite care, yet He can care for only those that permit Him to help them (1 Pet. 5:5-10 ). We speak of God as being immutable and unchangeable, Yet He has had to change His plans, set aside His promised blessings, change prophecy that was based upon conditions, and do many things that He did not first intend to do. All this had to be done because of the failure on the part of those with whom He was dealing. There are many prophecies and promises in Scripture based upon people meeting certain conditions ( Lev. 26:3-45; Deut. 11:13-32; 12:1-32; 28:1-62; 30:15-20; Isa. 1:15-20; 55:1-13; 59:8-14; ).
 

gemcgrew

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I notice you don't give Scripture on your reply, Guess your Bible don't teach you not to judge anyone !
Did you also notice that you just did the same thing on both counts?

Should I attach a citation to everything that I say? Even when it is common knowledge among believers?
 

watermedic

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So are you saying that when you punish your children you don't love them?

The hardest things about parenting is punishment and watching your child fail. But both need to happen to raise a successful adult.
 
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We speak of God as being invisible yet He has been seen as a visible person by many. We speak of God's longsuffering as being infinite, yet it has come to an end many times ( Ex. 32:7-34; 34:6 ). God is spoken of as infinite in mercy, yet He has had to curse people whom He had previously had mercy upon ( Ex. 15:13; 1 Cor. 10:1-12 ).
And it goes with many of God's attributes and powers. He naturally has had to limit Himself in His dealings with free moral agents. So in the thought of God being limited concerning His knowledge of human affairs, we must conclude that it is not so much that God cannot know beforehand all things if He chose to do so, but He does not choose to do this because of the very nature of His plan, and because it was made in conjunction with unpredictable free moral agents. We can still believe that God is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, impartial, longsuffering, by nature, but that He limits Himself according to His plan of dealing with other beings who are capable of free action, and therefore , it cannot be known what they will do under all circumstances until they are tested. This is the only kind of plan that God could justly make since it includes the personal relations with creatures capable of free and unpredictable choices.
 
So are you saying that when you punish your children you don't love them?

The hardest things about parenting is punishment and watching your child fail. But both need to happen to raise a successful adult.
(Quote) "We speak of the infinite Fatherhood of God, yet He has to limit His parenthood to those who will become His children according to His plan ( Luke 11:9-13; Acts 5:32; Heb. 12:5-10)"

That's a little more than parents giving out punishment. This is a Father choosing his children according to His plan.

I do like that you acknowledge God is the Father of children.
 
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