fishfryer
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I’d be real interested in results of test firing your homemade black. It’s one of those things many muzzle loaders think of,time to time. PM anytime would be welcome.
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UPD: GOEX production (real black powder) NEW INVESTOR : DOD
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fishfryer
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Gourds? I seem to know where some are!
Good news. It looks like Estes Energetics in Colorado has bought Goex and will continue production of true blackpowder.
fishfryer
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That is very good news
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I fired many an Estes rocket motor as a kid, glad to hear this news!
snuffy
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Anybody know when the powder will be available.
georgia_home
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Thank you sir.
georgia_home
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Update: Estes / GOEX has a new investor.
apparently, a lot of explody things use black powder. The kind of things DOD uses.
they’re investing 3.5m in the company.
apparently, a lot of explody things use black powder. The kind of things DOD uses.
they’re investing 3.5m in the company.
snuffy
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Any updates?
rubicon_in_ga
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A word of encouragement and caution about homemade blackpowder. I've been making my own for years in small batches, doing it the "right" way, with a ball mill, pressing into cakes and corning, then separating by grain size. I've used hardwood charcoal, softwood charcoal, commercial airfloat charcoal, all with varying results. I built a basic charcoal retort out of a new empty gallon paint can, and a piece of chimney flue reducer pipe, and so far the best results I've had for general purpose black powder has been using either kindling sized pieces of plain old building lumber (whitewood, spf), or believe it or not, untreated pine pet bedding. The pet bedding requires less reduction (breaking up) of the charcoal after it's done. I've shot many rounds in my percussion rifles and pistols using my homemade black powder (FFG and FFFG) and had more than a little fun making bottle rockets with the finer stuff. Ball milling is the dangerous part. PLEASE DO NOT attempt to make black powder without doing alot of research and taking the proper precautions first. More accidents have been had from the ball milling process than any other aspect of making black powder.
For sporting (hunting) and personal use homemade fireworks, the BATF has ruled that the average citizen IS allowed to make their own black powder for personal use, HOWEVER if you're using it in any competition where there is any form of monetary reward or prizes, you're now considered in the "business of manufacturing" and if you don't have the proper permits, you're committing a felony. Also, you cannot sell any homemade black powder to anyone else, for the same reason. They really don't play around with this stuff, (don't ask me how I know). Wouldn't hurt to also look into keeping all your black powder manufacturing stuff in a Type 4 Indoor Explosives magazine (or building one yourself), that way if there's ever any question of legality, you're still complying with the rules of explosive storage, even though technically you're not required to have it if you don't have an explosives permit.
Just be careful if you decide to get into making it. Know the laws, know the risks, know how to do it safely. It can be alot of fun shooting with your own powder, but it is dangerous to make.
For sporting (hunting) and personal use homemade fireworks, the BATF has ruled that the average citizen IS allowed to make their own black powder for personal use, HOWEVER if you're using it in any competition where there is any form of monetary reward or prizes, you're now considered in the "business of manufacturing" and if you don't have the proper permits, you're committing a felony. Also, you cannot sell any homemade black powder to anyone else, for the same reason. They really don't play around with this stuff, (don't ask me how I know). Wouldn't hurt to also look into keeping all your black powder manufacturing stuff in a Type 4 Indoor Explosives magazine (or building one yourself), that way if there's ever any question of legality, you're still complying with the rules of explosive storage, even though technically you're not required to have it if you don't have an explosives permit.
Just be careful if you decide to get into making it. Know the laws, know the risks, know how to do it safely. It can be alot of fun shooting with your own powder, but it is dangerous to make.
georgia_home
Senior Member
update: two updates actually
the production facility for goex in louisiana is about ready to come online again. said they are doing dry runs with inert material to ensure things are mixing correctly.
also, a story in the war zone site that had this quote... there is a paywall on the article, but this quote give the idea i guess.
the production facility for goex in louisiana is about ready to come online again. said they are doing dry runs with inert material to ensure things are mixing correctly.
also, a story in the war zone site that had this quote... there is a paywall on the article, but this quote give the idea i guess.
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Chief Big Taw
Has anyone been able to find any black powder ?
T, there used to be a shop in Phoenix City that sold Goex. Not sure if they still do or not. It was right next to the bridge. On the left as you head west out of Columbus.
georgia_home
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T, there are a couple places on line, but they eat you up with HAZMAT. I tried to find a few people near me to split a case To average the cost down. Not enough folks interested when it actually gets down to spending the $$$
Forget the name of the place/web site offhand, last Time I looked, they had not recovered their stock of GOEX, they had shutzen in stock. Real BP, ?german?swiss? Something like that
also, called several of the places I had seen as authorized GOEX dealers, within A couple hours of me. they no longer carried it.
Forget the name of the place/web site offhand, last Time I looked, they had not recovered their stock of GOEX, they had shutzen in stock. Real BP, ?german?swiss? Something like that
also, called several of the places I had seen as authorized GOEX dealers, within A couple hours of me. they no longer carried it.
georgia_home
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Link for shutzen dealers, the Goex link I found did 404-page not found error
