Kidney Stones

[HughW2]

I am pretty sure I have them and will be seeing a urologist. What have you folks done to help flush them.
i have woken up at 4:00 am the last two nights in extreme plan radiating from my back to front on my right hand side about naval level. I checked out foods to avoid.
Beets -no problem, chocolate and peanuts-problem. Any ideas on things that help you flush these things? What did you do for pain?

 

[Jeetdawg]

If you are going to go the flush route, then you want to drink lots of water or beer to promote volume (maybe add some lemon juice to your water). It depends on the composition of your stone as to what causes them. Mine was caused by strawberries, sweet tea and other assorted things. I was in so much pain that they went ahead and admitted me to the hospital and blasted the one in the kidney and pulled the one that had started it’s way down. There wasn’t anything over the counter that would touch that pain and I would never wish them on my enemy.

 

[natureman]

Drink lots of water. I have flushed some small ones but the larger ones require lithotripsy to break them up first. What you don't want is for a large one to get stuck in the ureter. That time sent me to the emergency room and surgery. After you get them passed you don't want them to reform. This requires a much higher water intake lifestyle. Depending on whether they are calcium or uric acid stones there are some daily supplements you can take to help prevent them.

 

[1gr8bldr]

I have found that everbody has them differently. My pain, is off or on, no in between, and my pain is usually more in the back area just above belt line. I have never had frontal pain. I feel it coming on and it goes from 2 to 10+ in a matter of minutes. But can.... go away just that fast as well, without passing it. It's assumed that the stone moves to a position of none blockage. I hear of people having it for days, and I know it's nothing like my experience. Everytime I get them, I lose my voice from puking, then dry heaving because of the pain. My dad had them for weeks without even going to the doctor. He did not have them like I have them. I used to assume that these symptoms in others were infection of the kidneys, rather than stones. But recently my father's ordeal made me see I was wrong. His did turn out to be a kidney stone. So, It just has many differing ways of presenting itself. In my scenario I rarely ever was able to tough it out at home but hot shower spraying on the area or heating pad relaxes the muscles that are "grabbing" the stone, holding it in place due to the pain causing extreme tensing of the muscles. Mine usually turn it lose if I can relax, via heat or pain injection

 

[1gr8bldr]

Try this, theoretically , it may help. When you have kidney stones, you keep going to the bathroom, hoping to pass it, dribble, each time. Don't do this. Hold it as long as you possible can so that when you finally go, you could actually having enough stream to move it. Your not going to ever pass it with a dribble

 

[7Mag Hunter]

I had to have mine removed because they were to large to blast ( 9mm)....most pain
i have ever had.....

pureed Asparagus is supposed to help flush them out....never tried it...

 

[BriarPatch99]

9 mms stuck in the neck of the left kidney ....Dr. said nothing to do but "fetch" it ....

Until I recently crushed my right ankle.... It was the worse pain I ever experienced....still not sure the ankle touched the kidney pain ....

My nurse said she had had three kids and three kidney stones ....said she would take having a kid over the stones any day of the week.... I really have an appreciation for the female pain...

My doc said mine was natural minerals ....and there was little I could do ....

 

[Milkman]

Hugh
It hasn’t got really bad yet or you wouldn’t be sleeping. Percocet is a good pain reliever for it.
Good luck!!!

 

[Bigbendgyrene]

Funny (in hindsight) tale of my experience. Married to a doc, eat *fairly* well, avid jogger most of my life and fairly bulletproof health-wise until my mid-40s...

Sitting with my wife watching TV one night when she went up to put our daughter in bed. Feeling bit of sudden discomfort I get up to go use the bathroom... and am sitting on the pot... when WHAMO!!! Someone's stabbing me in the lower back area and WILL NOT STOP twisting the blade! Crawl back to the couch and when the wife comes back minutes later tell her I think I'm going to have to go to the emergency room. Don't want her to wake my daughter / them to have to get involved so shuffle out to my truck (about 10pm now) and get a mile down the road to see my gas gauge light up. CRAP! Stop at a the only country gas station still open near our house... and swear I must have looked like a zombie from Michael Jackson's thriller the way I'm shuffling around in pain trying to pay for/ pump the gas.

After what seems like an eternity, get to the ER and they ask me what my pain level is... and as a Marine I think of folks losing legs, blown up, etc... and utter, "I don't know... maybe 6 or 7?" Admitting nurse says something along the lines of, "Babe, you look more like a 9 or 10... and I'll bet money you're passing a stone." They quickly take me back, and with God as my witness and me NOT wanting to be a GOMER (Doc language for "Get Out of My Emergency Room") my pain suddenly VANISHES. I'm actually apologizing and trying to leave when the doc comes in and says I really still need a scan. Yep, stone confirmed, but couple of aspirin and advil completely eased pain after 30 minute or so delay.

Memory serves it took two weeks to get the booger to pass / bumped right up to window of time they said they'd give me before going the blast path.

For the most part every time it'd move and the pain hit hard, advil muted it enough I could bear it. Greatly appreciate it could have been much, MUCH worse.

Doc that saw me said he had stones too, and that diet was a tougher nut to crack than just trying to stay VERY well hydrated going forward. I try to, but work outside caring for land so much / still get dehydrated in summer that I suspect I'll have a few more rounds of battle down the road.

 

[natureman]

Years of tea, beer, coca cola, and working outside without proper hydration seems to be my culprit for forming uric acid stones.

 

[Israel]

https://www.healthline.com/health/kidney-health/home-remedies-for-kidney-stones

 

[turkeykirk]

It’s amazing to me that you can be normal one minute and then a kidney stone hits and instant unbearable pain. I have got one now in my kidney. Doctor said to just wait and watch it since I’ve passed a couple this size before. Just waiting on the “time bomb” to go off!

 

[Horns]

Absolutely the worst pain in the world. I get sick at both ends. I have passed 3 and had to get one blasted

 

[bany]

WATER,AND MORE WATER. LEMON WATER AND MORE FLUIDS. Being hydrated to the max will give you some advantages when trying to pass them and should help to keep forming them. Staying as mobile as possible is good too. Seeing the urologist will let ya know what or where you stand. Generally if it hurts it’s loose and moving and is in or trying to get in the ureter. Then again getting out of the ureter to the bladder. Big jagged ones will jack ya up all over and for awhile! Well, those are my thoughts (experiences) best of luck!

you may have passed the thing already or it’s in your bladder or it’s not getting into your ureter cause it’s the size of Volkswagen ?......sorry I couldn’t help it.

Actually Ultima is a vitamin/mineral drink mix that I believe has helped me out. Idea is it gives the kidneys what they need to flush well. I have calcium stones and haven’t had any bad ones since I started using ultima pretty regular. Knock on wood! Pretty sure I’ve gotten rid of some smalls though.

 

[DannyW]

As the veteran of maybe 12-15 stones, and 6-8 lithotripsy operations, I highly discourage the "just pass it on my own" route of therapy. There is a great possibility this will end at 3:00 AM with you puking and finally understanding what a true "10" pain level is.

Go see a urologist. Now.

 

[Core Lokt]

I'd first make sure that you have kidney stones personally and not self diagnosing it. Knew a guy that thought he had them, turned out to be a cancerous tumor that didn't end well sooner than later.

Get checked man and good luck.

 

[GeorgiaGlockMan]

I've been there.

Soaking in a hot tub is good temporary pain relief.

 

[NE GA Pappy]

i have had one, and that was plenty for me.

I was at work, helping a customer at the counter, when I started getting a pain in my lower back. Before the customer left, I was bent over the counter trying to get it to ease off. I stumbled into the break room, and laid down on the tile floor. It let off a little bit with the cool floor touching my back. Then all the sudden, I was crawling for the bathroom to puke my guts out.

I called my wife in her office to take me to the E room, about 3 miles away. I managed to get in car, and she drove me over there. When we got there, no pain. I told her I might as well go on back to work. She informed me that I was seeing a doctor. Then.

Well, by the time I filled out the paperwork to be seen in the ER, I was crawling in the floor again. The doc came in, took a look at me, and ordered morphine. Now that is some good stuff. I didn't feel any pain. I was ready to go home... Miracle cure.

They took me back for a xray, and before I could get back in the ER room (about 25 to 30 minutes) that morphine had worn off, and I was squirming on that gurney like a earth worm on hot asphalt.

They admitted me, and a urologist put in a stent. 2 weeks later, I had it blasted, but the sucker decided to hide behind my hipbone after it was split, So they couldn't break it all up. I passed a little gravel. 2 weeks later, still not passing the other part, they put me back to blast it again. I told that doc to turn that machine up on HIGH, and go as long as he could. I wasn't having surgery to get rid of the stone.

When I woke up from the procedure, I was bruised from my butt cheek to the middle of my rib cage. I mean dark red and blue bruising. I had a cath in, and the bag was full of red pee. The doc said they got it.

I pee'd red for over a week. 2 weeks later, I had to go back and have stent removed. I got that male nurse back for all the pain they had caused me. They pulled the stent out, and then put a tube in. Filled my bladder with water, and inserted a camera.... yeah.. there.

They looked all around at my bladder, while I laid there filling fuller than a spring time tick. The doc said they were gonna let the plug deflate, and pull all of it, camera, tube and all at one time..... get ready... Wow.

When they pulled that out, Old Faithful erupted. I sprayed that male nurse from his head to his shorts. Couldn't stop. After all that time, my control muscles just couldn't stop the eruption.

Anyway, when I left there, the doc gave me 10 sample tablets of Viagra. Said maybe it would help me feel better in a couple weeks.

 

[HughW2]

As the veteran of maybe 12-15 stones, and 6-8 lithotripsy operations, I highly discourage the "just pass it on my own" route of therapy. There is a great possibility this will end at 3:00 AM with you puking and finally understanding what a true "10" pain level is.

Go see a urologist. Now.

Dang Danny,
Sorry for you and you have my respect. I did have a doctor visit today and a CT scan tomorrow. I hope not to become a stone producer. Not cut out for that.

 

[HughW2]

i have had one, and that was plenty for me.

I was at work, helping a customer at the counter, when I started getting a pain in my lower back. Before the customer left, I was bent over the counter trying to get it to ease off. I stumbled into the break room, and laid down on the tile floor. It let off a little bit with the cool floor touching my back. Then all the sudden, I was crawling for the bathroom to puke my guts out.

I called my wife in her office to take me to the E room, about 3 miles away. I managed to get in car, and she drove me over there. When we got there, no pain. I told her I might as well go on back to work. She informed me that I was seeing a doctor. Then.

Well, by the time I filled out the paperwork to be seen in the ER, I was crawling in the floor again. The doc came in, took a look at me, and ordered morphine. Now that is some good stuff. I didn't feel any pain. I was ready to go home... Miracle cure.

They took me back for a xray, and before I could get back in the ER room (about 25 to 30 minutes) that morphine had worn off, and I was squirming on that gurney like a earth worm on hot asphalt.

They admitted me, and a urologist put in a stent. 2 weeks later, I had it blasted, but the sucker decided to hide behind my hipbone after it was split, So they couldn't break it all up. I passed a little gravel. 2 weeks later, still not passing the other part, they put me back to blast it again. I told that doc to turn that machine up on HIGH, and go as long as he could. I wasn't having surgery to get rid of the stone.

When I woke up from the procedure, I was bruised from my butt cheek to the middle of my rib cage. I mean dark red and blue bruising. I had a cath in, and the bag was full of red pee. The doc said they got it.

I pee'd red for over a week. 2 weeks later, I had to go back and have stent removed. I got that male nurse back for all the pain they had caused me. They pulled the stent out, and then put a tube in. Filled my bladder with water, and inserted a camera.... yeah.. there.

They looked all around at my bladder, while I laid there filling fuller than a spring time tick. The doc said they were gonna let the plug deflate, and pull all of it, camera, tube and all at one time..... get ready... Wow.

When they pulled that out, Old Faithful erupted. I sprayed that male nurse from his head to his shorts. Couldn't stop. After all that time, my control muscles just couldn't stop the eruption.

Anyway, when I left there, the doc gave me 10 sample tablets of Viagra. Said maybe it would help me feel better in a couple weeks.[/QUOTE
Pappy,
Thanks for sharing. Hope I don’t have to handle that kind of pain.