Mr ATF agent, I mean OP...school you on what exactly? I know you aren't asking someone to tell you to break the law?
Form 1 is for manufacture and what he would need. Form 4 is for transfer of existing NFA items.start with a form 4...
you are correct, momentary brain fade..Form 1 is for manufacture and what he would need. Form 4 is for transfer of existing NFA items.
So to be devils advocate with no dogs in this fight. There are tons of guns out there with FAUX suppressors that match the above descriptions and thread on to barrels. How's that gonna fly?
So, an update.
From 2018 until now, ATF has been cracking down on silencer kits marketed as solvent traps, fuel filters, etc. Things that have a tube, has baffles or a monocore, has threads for attaching to a gun's muzzle, but only lacks the holes for the bullet to pass through.
ATF has raided manufacturers and distributors of such products, confiscated inventory, shut down their websites, taken or copied sales records. Until now, they've left the consumers alone, and even while ATF took the position that a silencer parts kit or "solvent trap without the baffles drilled thru" is already a silencer (the federal definition of a silencer includes parts intended for use in a silencer), ATF had been allowing people to buy the kits and use them to "manufacture" a suppressor after they register it on a Form 1.
Well, in late February 2022, ATF denied nearly 1000 Form 1 requests to build a suppressor, on the grounds that in order to build one from factory-built parts (baffles and tubes) you started with an unlawful silencer and are simply trying to make it legal. But ATF has always said that once an item is illegal, it can't be made legal and registered to any member of the public.. it's contraband and must be turned over to Law Enforcement, or possibly donated to a museum or something.
So, the plot thickens.
Faux suppressors don’t have any baffles, or they don’t contain or allow the pass through of any of the muzzle blast and they usually extend back over the barrel, rather than in front of the muzzle. They usually put them on 16 inch barrels to give the illusion of a shorter barrel with a can the end. To be a suppressor it needs more than a certain amount of baffles, wipes, or some material like steel wool that slows the gas flow and has to reduce the the sound by a certain Db. There are many muzzle breaks and flash cans that contain 1-2 baffles, threads, etc, but they don’t reduce noise at the muzzle. There are a few perfectly legal muzzle devices that will sound quieter to the shooter by redirecting the sound down range, but they don’t actually reduce the Db at the muzzle.So to be devils advocate with no dogs in this fight. There are tons of guns out there with FAUX suppressors that match the above descriptions and thread on to barrels. How's that gonna fly?
Faux suppressors don’t have any baffles, or they don’t contain or allow the pass through of any of the muzzle blast and they usually extend back over the barrel, rather than in front of the muzzle. They usually put them on 16 inch barrels to give the illusion of a shorter barrel with a can the end. To be a suppressor it needs more than a certain amount of baffles, wipes, or some material like steel wool that slows the gas flow and has to reduce the the sound by a certain Db. There are many muzzle breaks and flash cans that contain 1-2 baffles, threads, etc, but they don’t reduce noise at the muzzle. There are a few perfectly legal muzzle devices that will sound quieter to the shooter by redirecting the sound down range, but they don’t actually reduce the Db at the muzzle.