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A great verse explained very well.
From David Moss - Freedom in Christ Movement
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TAKING THOUGHTS CAPTIVE
I have read the verse below probably hundreds of times and have heard many lessons on it. The general idea Ive always had and have been taught is that if a bad thought comes into my mind, I’m to take it captive and discard it and not let it take root.
And while that is a good practice, I don’t believe that is what this verse is saying.
Taking it in context, if we read the verses before it, Paul speaks of a war, a battle.
Now stop for a second right there. Where does a battle take place? On a battlefield. Where is the battlefield in a spiritual war? The mind.
We cannot fight a spiritual battle with human reasoning. Paul says we are equipped with divine power (from the Holy Spirit in us). He fights the battle.
But what are we fighting? Strongholds. Fortresses.
Where are these strongholds? In the mind, which is where the battle is!
What are these strongholds? They are thoughts, ideas, false arguments, especially biblical doctrines that don’t match up with the truth of the gospel.
***They set themselves up against the knowledge of God.***
You see it takes power from the Holy Spirit to know the love and grace of God. See Eph 3:14-19.
The more you know His love and grace, then the easier it is to recognize false doctrines and take them captive in our minds and discard them.
SPIRITUAL WARFARE
Spiritual warfare is often a battle between law (self righteousness) and grace (Christ righteousness). If Satan can get a believer to mix law and grace, that person will live in bondage.
Many of these thoughts/ ideas point to ourselves rather than Christ. Such as:
—Living for God rather than Christ living through us
—Placing our emphasis on what we are doing for Christ rather than what He has done for us.
A GOOD QUESTION
You may say- ‘Well how do we know if a thought, idea or doctrine is wrong and to know which ones to take captive?’
Excellent question and I’ve learned there is one foolproof way to know.....
Does what you hold true and believe set you free in Christ or does it put you in bondage?
Jesus said you will know the truth (Himself) and the Truth will set you free. Therefore, error will put you in bondage.
Any kind of rules based system of “living the Christian life” that places the emphasis on YOU and what you are doing or not doing is a thought, idea, doctrine that needs to be taken captive to the obedience of Christ.
What is the obedience of Christ? It is the obedience of FAITH- living by trust in Him so that He will express His life in you and through you. Rom 1:5, 16:26.
So let’s hold fast the truth of the knowledge of God in the revelation of Gods love and grace toward us who believe and discard anything contrary to the freedom we have in Him.
From David Moss - Freedom in Christ Movement
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TAKING THOUGHTS CAPTIVE
I have read the verse below probably hundreds of times and have heard many lessons on it. The general idea Ive always had and have been taught is that if a bad thought comes into my mind, I’m to take it captive and discard it and not let it take root.
And while that is a good practice, I don’t believe that is what this verse is saying.
Taking it in context, if we read the verses before it, Paul speaks of a war, a battle.
Now stop for a second right there. Where does a battle take place? On a battlefield. Where is the battlefield in a spiritual war? The mind.
We cannot fight a spiritual battle with human reasoning. Paul says we are equipped with divine power (from the Holy Spirit in us). He fights the battle.
But what are we fighting? Strongholds. Fortresses.
Where are these strongholds? In the mind, which is where the battle is!
What are these strongholds? They are thoughts, ideas, false arguments, especially biblical doctrines that don’t match up with the truth of the gospel.
***They set themselves up against the knowledge of God.***
You see it takes power from the Holy Spirit to know the love and grace of God. See Eph 3:14-19.
The more you know His love and grace, then the easier it is to recognize false doctrines and take them captive in our minds and discard them.
SPIRITUAL WARFARE
Spiritual warfare is often a battle between law (self righteousness) and grace (Christ righteousness). If Satan can get a believer to mix law and grace, that person will live in bondage.
Many of these thoughts/ ideas point to ourselves rather than Christ. Such as:
—Living for God rather than Christ living through us
—Placing our emphasis on what we are doing for Christ rather than what He has done for us.
A GOOD QUESTION
You may say- ‘Well how do we know if a thought, idea or doctrine is wrong and to know which ones to take captive?’
Excellent question and I’ve learned there is one foolproof way to know.....
Does what you hold true and believe set you free in Christ or does it put you in bondage?
Jesus said you will know the truth (Himself) and the Truth will set you free. Therefore, error will put you in bondage.
Any kind of rules based system of “living the Christian life” that places the emphasis on YOU and what you are doing or not doing is a thought, idea, doctrine that needs to be taken captive to the obedience of Christ.
What is the obedience of Christ? It is the obedience of FAITH- living by trust in Him so that He will express His life in you and through you. Rom 1:5, 16:26.
So let’s hold fast the truth of the knowledge of God in the revelation of Gods love and grace toward us who believe and discard anything contrary to the freedom we have in Him.