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Tennessee Preliminarily Detects Chronic Wasting Disease; Enacts CWD Response Plan
- Thread starter Howard Roark
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Glad that now you think it’s a big deal because I’ve seen you mock people on here in the past that brought up the subject of CWD.
There are plenty of diseases out there that even with millions of dollars in research humans have not found a cure. So until a cure is found, why not try and slow it’s spread and increase awareness?
Not sure why anyone thinks the disease has always been around? If it was, wouldn’t it already be everywhere and wouldn’t deer have at least some immunity to it?
As you probably know, it is rapidly spreading and it is 100% fatal in all deer.
Before you jokingly say “the sky is falling” think about what deer and deer hunting will be like in another 50 years if it spreads at its current rate. And think about what would happen if it ever mutates and becomes transmitable to humans.
You may think that could never happen but it could. Less than 100 years ago a viral disease in monkeys mutated slightly and infected a hunter who ate the meat of a sick monkey. I’m talking of coarse about HIV.
Lukikus2
Senior Member
I ain't got no dog in the race but in the early 80's I found dead deer everywhere in the N Bama mountains. Looked completely healthy with no signs of trauma.
Here’s the thing that really sucks. The prion really cannot be destroyed. I think I read that they can destroy it in a very high heat incinerator, but that really is not practical in the wild. So everywhere that an infected deer poops or pees or dies, prions now exist there. Plants can take up the prion through the soil. Another animal eats plant, and if it is not a deer, it can still spread the prion in their feces. What’s more, if this thing ever was able to infect humans, think about the areas our food is grown. If plants can take it in through the soil... it could be a problem for everyone, not just hunters. I hope they can find a cure or a way to prevent this crap not only for wildlife management, but also so we don’t have to find out if this prion can infect humans down the road. If you guys ever watch growingdeer.tv dr grant woods has some good information on cwd, the route of transmission, progress they have made in understanding this disease...etc.
Curtis
Senior Member
P6 - So with this cycle for the prion of: feces, soil, plant, animal, feces it would appear that anything that causes to deer to heard could aid in the spread of the disease. Including food plots and agriculture. Not that I am a huge proponent of baiting and urine lures, but it seems to me there are lots of man-made practices that could be assisting the spread of the disease. Is that correct? I realize baiting makes deer concentrate in more density than a food plot or an ag field, btw.
Like others here, I am trying to understand this disease and the threat a bit more.
Throwback
Chief Big Taw
Do all deer in the CWD zones have CWD?
howboutthemdawgs
Senior Member
No but some places in Wisconsin have as high as 50% currently.
I’ve heard dr grant woods speak on a population segment of mule deer in Utah and maybe Colorado in cwd area. He said those two populations will absolutely be extinct in his lifetime. They lose 18 percent of their population yearly. Scary stuff
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Chief Big Taw
I think that was blue tongue
bradleyjanes06
Senior Member
I was reading an article the other night on cwd. They were saying there's been positive result in injecting a type of salmonella into a deer's stomach and then being fed cwd positive feed and the animal has yet to get the disease. Said this particular salmonella destroys an acid in the prion making it unable to infect the deer. Have you seen or heard of this study? I'll see if I can't find it again as well.
Mr Bya Lungshot
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bradleyjanes06
Senior Member
Was reading up on a lot of cwd studies. One being that a group had the disease jump to monkeys which may mean humans could possibly contract the disease from tainted meat. A similar test was done by an international group and no monkeys got cwd. In one study a group put some type of salmonella in the stomach of deer and they did not get cwd. There's all kinds of studies going on now trying to find a preventative measure. Just wondering if Mr. Killmaster had heard of the salmonella and maybe clarify somethings. Also like to know if birds are capable of transporting the disease as well?
C.Killmaster
Senior Member
That's some work that Colorado State is working on and they got partial protection in some study animals. There's a lot of promising work going on but even if they did develop a vaccine delivering it to wild deer is really problematic. The best thing a vaccine would do is stop captive breeders from spreading further. An interesting note is that those deer used in the study were likely raised in Georgia and sent to Colorado to be in the study. UGA has been supplying fawns to Colorado state for years, I drove a load of them out there myself one year.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X14015746
bradleyjanes06
Senior Member
Awesome. I guess the main thing in wondering is if a preventative measure was put in place could the deer eventually become immune? Can this prion evolve being it has no dna?
bradleyjanes06
Senior Member
Thank you for the article as well kept me from having to look for it haha
Mr Bya Lungshot
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This sounds amazing. Something,anything in the right direction tends to eventually lead to something bigger and better.
bradleyjanes06
Senior Member
Exactly anything helps.
bradleyjanes06
Senior Member
So started thinking about the salmonella method and the anti high fence/farm guys are going to hate this. If scientist can get a breakthrough and stop captive deer from getting the disease those deer may become the future restocking animals of the entire nation.
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