What order do the QBs go in the draft

DannyW

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Here’s a more recent video for you. If you watch the other one you’d see fields was mvp of the elite 11. Not Lawrence.
Fields was superman against Clemson. Made all the right reads, made all the throws (except one) and made all the right decisions. And against an elite team.

Where was that guy in the NW game, or in the last 40 minutes against Alabama? Still think he could have used another season at OSU to mature and season.

Someone is going to take a flier on him in the first round. And he may become an NFL star. Or he may become the answer to a trivia question. (Name the most talented OSU quarterback ever who later became an NFL bust?)

All depends if he works out that consistency thing.
 
Looks like the Falcons have another order for another QB now that mgmt. this past week cut the backup to the backup QB that retired.
 
You wud think that would be the logical thing to do but the falcons will probably just carry two and try to save a dollar
No worries, Kurt Benkert was just on the practice squad so reckon they may want another to practice against, but of course we'll just wait & see what new HC & GM decide they want.
 
Justin had two bad games in his career at OSU. NW he was without his number 1 receiver and 3 starting Olineman. Because of this, NW blitzed on every down. Against Bama it was clear he was still injured from the Clemson game and Day said that a couple of weeks after the game.

This recent article actually is a great breakdown of Fields and proved alot of the first read stuff to be false. I've said this before, Lawrence had bad games as well and it never gets brought up even once. Lawrence played against NFL cornerbacks last year against OSU and he couldn't throw the ball down field to his NFL receivers. As I've said many times, If Dobbins and 1 of the receivers doesnt drop 3 easy td throws by Fields last year they would have blown Clemson out like they did this year and Fields numbers would have been off the charts in both games against Lawrence and out played him in both.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/02/nfl-draft-justin-fields-one-read-quarterback-report
 
Be interesting 5-10 years from now when you look back on this bunch of QB's. Shaping up to be one of the best classes ever...could even be better than the 2004 class (Roethlisberger, Rivers and Eli Manning) and maybe even better than what's considered the best class ever...1983 (Elway, Marino and Jim Kelly among others).
 
Draft QB opinions obviously will continue bouncing up & down 'til the event is over, but these 4 CBS Sports mock draft people at the web link below are now locked in agreement on the 1st 4 QB's go 1st pick - Trevor Lawrence, 2nd pick - Zach Wilson, 3rd QB - Justin Fields, & 4th QB - Trey Lance.



https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/

Updated: 2/22/21
 
Justin had two bad games in his career at OSU. NW he was without his number 1 receiver and 3 starting Olineman. Because of this, NW blitzed on every down. Against Bama it was clear he was still injured from the Clemson game and Day said that a couple of weeks after the game.

This recent article actually is a great breakdown of Fields and proved alot of the first read stuff to be false. I've said this before, Lawrence had bad games as well and it never gets brought up even once. Lawrence played against NFL cornerbacks last year against OSU and he couldn't throw the ball down field to his NFL receivers. As I've said many times, If Dobbins and 1 of the receivers doesnt drop 3 easy td throws by Fields last year they would have blown Clemson out like they did this year and Fields numbers would have been off the charts in both games against Lawrence and out played him in both.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/02/nfl-draft-justin-fields-one-read-quarterback-report
Justin Fields played 4 teams this year with defenses that were ranked in the top 20. That is the defense ratings, not the overall team. He went 1 and 3 in those games and threw 6 picks. For caparison, Zach Wilson faced two teams with defenses ranked in the top 20 and one that was in the low 30s. He threw 1 pick in those three games. Fields had 69 completions in those 4 games, and Wilson had 68 in his three. However, Field's had well over a 100 attempts and completion percentage in the high 50s, where Wilson's was well over 70% on less than 100 attempts. The knock on Fields is not, nor has it ever been, whether or not he is a superior athlete or how far he can throw the ball. The question is, and his NFL career will depend on, whether or not he can make quick decisions and make accurate throws to receivers that aren't wide open, like most of his were the majority of the time. You mention Olave being out, but he played in the championship game. Unfortunately for him and Fields he was matched up against a true NFL caliber corner in Surtain most of the time. Fields will see a Surtain every week in the NFL, and his receivers won't be able to separate from them like they did at OSU, where 99% of the time his receiver was waaaay better than the guy lined up against him. This is why Fields is dropping. Only having three bad games is quite telling, when most all of your other games are against teams that aren't really good at all.
 
Justin Fields played 4 teams this year with defenses that were ranked in the top 20. That is the defense ratings, not the overall team. He went 1 and 3 in those games and threw 6 picks. For caparison, Zach Wilson faced two teams with defenses ranked in the top 20 and one that was in the low 30s. He threw 1 pick in those three games. Fields had 69 completions in those 4 games, and Wilson had 68 in his three. However, Field's had well over a 100 attempts and completion percentage in the high 50s, where Wilson's was well over 70% on less than 100 attempts. The knock on Fields is not, nor has it ever been, whether or not he is a superior athlete or how far he can throw the ball. The question is, and his NFL career will depend on, whether or not he can make quick decisions and make accurate throws to receivers that aren't wide open, like most of his were the majority of the time. You mention Olave being out, but he played in the championship game. Unfortunately for him and Fields he was matched up against a true NFL caliber corner in Surtain most of the time. Fields will see a Surtain every week in the NFL, and his receivers won't be able to separate from them like they did at OSU, where 99% of the time his receiver was waaaay better than the guy lined up against him. This is why Fields is dropping. Only having three bad games is quite telling, when most all of your other games are against teams that aren't really good at all.
that will leave a mark
 
Be interesting 5-10 years from now when you look back on this bunch of QB's. Shaping up to be one of the best classes ever...could even be better than the 2004 class (Roethlisberger, Rivers and Eli Manning) and maybe even better than what's considered the best class ever...1983 (Elway, Marino and Jim Kelly among others).

No chance, and won't come close to 2004 imo. Will be interesting though for sure
 
Justin Fields played 4 teams this year with defenses that were ranked in the top 20. That is the defense ratings, not the overall team. He went 1 and 3 in those games and threw 6 picks. For caparison, Zach Wilson faced two teams with defenses ranked in the top 20 and one that was in the low 30s. He threw 1 pick in those three games. Fields had 69 completions in those 4 games, and Wilson had 68 in his three. However, Field's had well over a 100 attempts and completion percentage in the high 50s, where Wilson's was well over 70% on less than 100 attempts. The knock on Fields is not, nor has it ever been, whether or not he is a superior athlete or how far he can throw the ball. The question is, and his NFL career will depend on, whether or not he can make quick decisions and make accurate throws to receivers that aren't wide open, like most of his were the majority of the time. You mention Olave being out, but he played in the championship game. Unfortunately for him and Fields he was matched up against a true NFL caliber corner in Surtain most of the time. Fields will see a Surtain every week in the NFL, and his receivers won't be able to separate from them like they did at OSU, where 99% of the time his receiver was waaaay better than the guy lined up against him. This is why Fields is dropping. Only having three bad games is quite telling, when most all of your other games are against teams that aren't really good at all.
That biggest knock on him right now is his staring down receivers instead of going through his progressions and scanning the field..

From Sports Illustrated
NFL insider Tony Pauline says Fields is dropping down some NFL teams' draft boards.

“The main concern is that Justin Fields stares down the primary target. He doesn’t look away from the primary target. He doesn’t process things as quickly as they want him to," Pauline said. "During the Senior Bowl, I mentioned how there was one team who has broken down all of Justin Fields’ passes in 2020. They said that just seven times, he looked off the primary target. The other 200+ passes he threw to his primary target.​
“There are some people out there that are telling me Justin Fields has fallen down their boards, because while they think while he is a great physical specimen and he’s got tremendous arm strength, and is a great arm talent, they think that there is a concern there about staring down a primary target and not being able to process things that quickly. I don’t know that I completely agree with that, but that is the word from some teams out there.”
 
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