Deutsch Drathaar

HookinLips · Sep 1, 2015

I put a deposit down with a breeder on a deutsch drahthaar and I'm going to have the dog by the first of the year. Just wondering if anyone on here has had any personal experiences with these dogs and if so, what they were, positive or negative. I'm posting it here because I will be using him/her (not sure if it will be a male or female yet) primarily as a duck dog but will be using it for some upland bird hunting as well. Just looking to here some experiences with it.
Thanks :cheers:

MuXi115 · Sep 1, 2015

I know there are a few guys on here with DDs. Which breeder are you using?

Granddaddy · Sep 1, 2015

I have hunted with this breed for ducks and pheasant in SD. These particular dogs were excellent, near tireless upland dogs but I found them to be very unenthusiastic water dogs. My Labs worked circles around them in the water & were about as effective hunting pheasants as the DDs but probably lacked the endurance of a lengthy quartering hunt covering a large area over several hours as the DDs. My observations were that DDs were mostly adequate in the water during the early season when water was relatively warm but poor and sometimes refused water retrieves later in the season.

HookinLips · Sep 1, 2015

MuXi115 said:
I know there are a few guys on here with DDs. Which breeder are you using?

Joe Lowry in NJ

http://www.gundogbreeders.com/breeders-new-jersey/vom-cohansey.html

tradhunter98 · Sep 1, 2015

I have and hunt a DD she has passed vjp and hzp hunt test. I blood track, point upland, but most of all retrieve. She has no quit but at the same time is the best pet I've had. You will be happy with your dog!

tradhunter98 · Sep 1, 2015

Asta vom mountain creek

HookinLips · Sep 1, 2015

Good deal Trad, that's what I like to hear.

HookinLips · Sep 1, 2015

Granddaddy said:
I have hunted with this breed for ducks and pheasant in SD. These particular dogs were excellent, near tireless upland dogs but I found them to be very unenthusiastic water dogs. My Labs worked circles around them in the water & were about as effective hunting pheasants as the DDs but probably lacked the endurance of a lengthy quartering hunt covering a large area over several hours as the DDs. My observations were that DDs were mostly adequate in the water during the early season when water was relatively warm but poor and sometimes refused water retrieves later in the season.

I've actually heard the opposite about this breed. I've heard their cold tolerance is about the equivalent of a Lab's and I've heard that their heat tolerance isn't as strong as a lot of other breeds. Guess there will always be cases of both for every breed.

king killer delete · Sep 1, 2015

You goin bird huntin take a bird dog.
You goin duck or goose huntin take a retriever.
You goin coon huntin take a coon hound
you goin rabbit huntin take a beagle
you goin people huntin take a Belgian Malinois
you goin dogin deer clean out the pound and put a hard runin walker hound up front.

tradhunter98 · Sep 1, 2015

king killer delete said:
You goin bird huntin take a bird dog.
You goin duck or goose huntin take a retriever.
You goin coon huntin take a coon hound
you goin rabbit huntin take a beagle
you goin people huntin take a Belgian Malinois
you goin dogin deer clean out the pound and put a hard runin walker hound up front.

Most DDs can hold their own in almost ever category! Can have all of them but you can get one that's good at most!

Joe Overby · Sep 1, 2015

king killer delete said:
You goin bird huntin take a bird dog.
You goin duck or goose huntin take a retriever.
You goin coon huntin take a coon hound
you goin rabbit huntin take a beagle
you goin people huntin take a Belgian Malinois
you goin dogin deer clean out the pound and put a hard runin walker hound up front.

TRUTH!!! I've never understood why people buy a bird dog to hunt ducks and then claim whichever breed it is "can hang" with the specialists...I mean my labs can quarter and trail "with the best of em"...except they can't. They're labs. They'll quarter and trail but I bought them to retrieve...cause that's what duck dogs do....retrieve....a lot...in the cold...and the ice...and bird dogs, ALL OF THEM, lack the double coat a lab, golden and a chessie have....therefore they don't tolerate the cold like the big 3.

HookinLips · Sep 2, 2015

king killer delete said:
You goin bird huntin take a bird dog.
You goin duck or goose huntin take a retriever.
You goin coon huntin take a coon hound
you goin rabbit huntin take a beagle
you goin people huntin take a Belgian Malinois
you goin dogin deer clean out the pound and put a hard runin walker hound up front.

Thanks for that. That was completely useless. facepalm:

. While I don't disagree, I'm already getting the dog because like Trad said, it may not be perfect at everything but I know it will be GOOD at MOST. The whole point of this thread was just to hear experiences with the breed. Not what breed to take hunting in each scenario. Thanks everyone else who actually stayed on topic.

Mumpy · Sep 2, 2015

My boy is from Joe, you will be hard pressed to find a better breeder out there. So, let me tell you about the dog I got from Joe. Knox is by far the most fun dog I've ever had the privilege to call my dog. He's smart as a whip and picked up on everything I taught him very fast. At just 6 months old he blood tracked a doe that I shot during Archery season. It wasn't a hard track, she ran maybe 100 yds or so, but with a little training when he was around 4 months old by just teaching him what the command "Track" meant, when I gave him the command in the "real" situation he slammed his nose to the ground and it took him less than 3 minutes to find the deer. (All of which I have on video)

In Knox's first hunting season I took him Dove hunting at 6 months of age where on his very first dove hunt retrieved 7 of the 11 dove I shot directly to my hand on command. The last three dove I didn't send him after because the temperatures were in the mid 90's and then there was one dove that my buddy's Draht retrieved because he said "I owed him one" lol.

That November Knox was 8 months old and we hunted Chukar, Pheasant and Quail, all of which he excelled in and by Mid-November we were Duck hunting on Fort Benning where I didn't lose not ONE Wounded duck. That may have been a fluke, so we'll test that theory again this year. Either I'm a CensoredCensoredCensoredCensored good shot and I kill em or he was just good. Maybe it was a bit of both

In January I took him to Louisiana for Woodcock and I took my limit each of the three days and on top of that Knox retrieved those birds (I heard dogs didn't like to retrieve woodcock) but he retrieved them to my hand, each and everyone of them. Now, with ALL Of that said, this is what I'm going to tell you.

As I said, Joe is one of the best Breeders you're going to find out there, when you purchase one of his dogs, it's like you have gained a new hunting buddy. He's going to help you with so much that you'll be calling him at night like "Jake from State farm" But, here is my FINAL Word...

You get the dog you deserve. I got the best dog I've ever owned because I put the time, effort and birds towards that. If you get a DD, especially one of Joe's, the bloodline is there. It's up to you to put in the time, effort and training to get the best dog you've ever owned. PM me anytime, I have training days on Fort Benning quite often with our dogs and would love to have you down.

krazybronco2 · Sep 2, 2015

HookinLips said:
Thanks for that. That was completely useless. . While I don't disagree, I'm already getting the dog because like Trad said, it may not be perfect at everything but I know it will be GOOD at MOST. The whole point of this thread was just to hear experiences with the breed. Not what breed to take hunting in each scenario. Thanks everyone else who actually stayed on topic.

question why are you asking about experiences about a breed of dog when you have already put the deposit down? i personally would not put a money down on anything unless i already knew i wanted it and had done my research. guess that is why im asking the question.

tradhunter98 · Sep 2, 2015

I would imagine he knows what type of dog he wants just wanted to know what others thought about it. Kinda like buying a truck and asking your buddy what he thinks about it!

mschlapa · Sep 2, 2015

Tradhunter, you are very wise for your young age grasshopper ? looks like you have done a great job with your dog and look forward to seeing what you guys get into this season. Maybe we can get together later this year after testing and judging season is over.

HookinLips · Sep 2, 2015

krazybronco2 said:
question why are you asking about experiences about a breed of dog when you have already put the deposit down? i personally would not put a money down on anything unless i already knew i wanted it and had done my research. guess that is why im asking the question.

This vv, more or less. I know what I want out of a dog and I've done a lot of research. This has been almost a 3 year process of narrowing it down and now that it's close to happening, I just wanted to here any personal experiences anyone on here cared to share.

tradhunter98 said:
I would imagine he knows what type of dog he wants just wanted to know what others thought about it. Kinda like buying a truck and asking your buddy what he thinks about it!

HookinLips · Sep 2, 2015

Mumpy said:
My boy is from Joe, you will be hard pressed to find a better breeder out there. So, let me tell you about the dog I got from Joe. Knox is by far the most fun dog I've ever had the privilege to call my dog. He's smart as a whip and picked up on everything I taught him very fast. At just 6 months old he blood tracked a doe that I shot during Archery season. It wasn't a hard track, she ran maybe 100 yds or so, but with a little training when he was around 4 months old by just teaching him what the command "Track" meant, when I gave him the command in the "real" situation he slammed his nose to the ground and it took him less than 3 minutes to find the deer. (All of which I have on video)

In Knox's first hunting season I took him Dove hunting at 6 months of age where on his very first dove hunt retrieved 7 of the 11 dove I shot directly to my hand on command. The last three dove I didn't send him after because the temperatures were in the mid 90's and then there was one dove that my buddy's Draht retrieved because he said "I owed him one" lol.

That November Knox was 8 months old and we hunted Chukar, Pheasant and Quail, all of which he excelled in and by Mid-November we were Duck hunting on Fort Benning where I didn't lose not ONE Wounded duck. That may have been a fluke, so we'll test that theory again this year. Either I'm a CensoredCensoredCensoredCensored good shot and I kill em or he was just good. Maybe it was a bit of both

In January I took him to Louisiana for Woodcock and I took my limit each of the three days and on top of that Knox retrieved those birds (I heard dogs didn't like to retrieve woodcock) but he retrieved them to my hand, each and everyone of them. Now, with ALL Of that said, this is what I'm going to tell you.

As I said, Joe is one of the best Breeders you're going to find out there, when you purchase one of his dogs, it's like you have gained a new hunting buddy. He's going to help you with so much that you'll be calling him at night like "Jake from State farm" But, here is my FINAL Word...

You get the dog you deserve. I got the best dog I've ever owned because I put the time, effort and birds towards that. If you get a DD, especially one of Joe's, the bloodline is there. It's up to you to put in the time, effort and training to get the best dog you've ever owned. PM me anytime, I have training days on Fort Benning quite often with our dogs and would love to have you down.

Thanks Mumpy. That is very reassuring. I know it will be a lot of work but I am at a point in my life where I am ready for it. I will send you a PM later.

WOODIE13 · Sep 2, 2015

You get out of them what you put into them, bottom line. As long as they have drive, you can use it to your advantage.

Didn't poodles come out before labs? :pop:

king killer delete · Sep 2, 2015

WOODIE13 said:
You get out of them what you put into them, bottom line. As long as they have drive, you can use it to your advantage.

Didn't poodles come out before labs?

yep sure did and I have seen several in duck blinds. I did not say that the dog breed was not good. I just made a good old observation. :bounce:

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