JOHNNY GREYWOLF
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Good post overall, but I take issue with you're implication that all faith is based on "simplistic" reasoning. You udercut the effect of you're position with that.
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How Intellectual is Atheism?
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Good post overall, but I take issue with you're implication that all faith is based on "simplistic" reasoning. You udercut the effect of you're position with that.
We've delved deeply into faith in some other threads of late.
"Simplistic" was the wrong word choice on my part. It is far from simple, as the Bible and other holy books that require belief in a deity makes having faith complicated just within interpretation and doctrine.
Faith in a creator is the easier of the choices, unless that faith is put to the test and questioned. And, not all faith is weak, not all is strong. But faith gets in the way of investigation more often than any other thing, as investigation threatens to overrule it with logic and a desire for proofs and evidence.
JOHNNY GREYWOLF
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Weak faith maybe, strong faith like true courage wishes to be tested.
ambush80
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Then by all means, Test It!!! Brave soldier!!!! If you do, then you're one of the good guys. Ever hung out with Wiccans?
Careful what you wish for! Testing of one's faith can be a difficult and dangerous experience!
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ambush80
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Careful what you wish for! Testing of one's faith can be a difficult and dangerous experience!
He aint skeered. i think hes gonna be a welcome addition.
reformedpastor
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Please!!! Serious??
JOHNNY GREYWOLF
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I have had some dabates/discussions with some of that persuasion.
JOHNNY GREYWOLF
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Careful what you wish for! Testing of one's faith can be a difficult and dangerous experience!
WELCOME TO THE CAMPFIRE, Johnny Greywolf!
It has been, a number of times, I did not arrive at my faith the easy way.. Thanks for the welcome
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welcome, J. Greywolf. we're beginning to get quite a collection of hogs, wolfs, one or two Dawgs or more, 
, and others, maybe even some rabbits of one kind or another. 
anyways, it's good to have some fresh meat on board. sorry,
as to the Wiccans, isn't that a man-made religion of sorts?
, and others, maybe even some rabbits of one kind or another. anyways, it's good to have some fresh meat on board. sorry,
as to the Wiccans, isn't that a man-made religion of sorts?
ambush80
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Pass "Go" and take $50, move three spaces, add a hotel to Park Place.
Ronnie T
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How Intellectual is Atheism?
Let me just say this, atheist believe the same scientist who use to claim that if you left fresh meat out for more than 48hours, it would begin turning into worms.
Let me just say this, atheist believe the same scientist who use to claim that if you left fresh meat out for more than 48hours, it would begin turning into worms.
reformedpastor
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Hey, they are proving my point, post by post............got rope?
Ronnie T
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A frog crawled out from a swamp(a swamp that could not exist) and thru evolution, I now have an oak tree in my front yard.
ambush80
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How Intellectual is Atheism?
Let me just say this, atheist believe the same scientist who use to claim that if you left fresh meat out for more than 48hours, it would begin turning into worms.
They also claimed that it was invisible "bugs" causing people to get sick. They were laughed out of town. In days passed they were called heretics and persecuted by the church for committing blasphemy (remember all that Earth around the Sun business?).
The point is that they continue to ask "why". They don't just stop at "because God says so". They're not always right, but they keep looking. There are still scientists scrutinizing the Theory of Evolution, though they use it as the best explanation that we have at present to describe a natural process.
There are no scientists that would say "If it's good enough for Darwin, it's good enough for me!" (Sounds like a hymn, doesn't it?)
reformedpastor
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Here is another example of poor scholarship. Please point to an official position that the Church had a doctrine that the earth was flat?
JOHNNY GREYWOLF
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as to the Wiccans, isn't that a man-made religion of sorts? [/QUOTE]
In manner of speaking I suppose, but some of their theories have some basis in how things work
[/QUOTE]In manner of speaking I suppose, but some of their theories have some basis in how things work
That would be your due dilligence in representing your side, since the "flat earth" subject is being introduced here by you.
Ambush gave specific examples.
Oh, here's a real doozy of brilliance and knowledge.
http://www.fixedearth.com/
ambush80
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I was talking about Copernicus, who was persecuted by the church because he said that the Earth was not the center of the universe and that it revolved around the Sun.
A short article on the matter:
http://burro.astr.cwru.edu/stu/pre20th_europe_church.html
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