Permaculture

sportsman94

Senior Member
Anyone here into it? I was planning a minimum maintenance orchard of some sort and stumbled across the permaculture idea. Got my gears turning enough to try it out. I’m not sure that it’ll be feasible for me unless I can source wood chips/mulch much better than I can now or go with plastic, but figure even if it’s just a regular orchard with mixed species of trees in a row it’ll be ok. Just looking for tips and tricks from anyone who has tried it in the south
 

sportsman94

Senior Member
I have studied it a good bit. What is it you are wanting to know?
I guess number one is how it works for people who do it down here? As with many things, people in seemingly easier climates/better soils start doing it and I don’t think it always translates to us in the hot, humid south. What are you doing for weed control and what would you do differently? What combinations of trees are working for you? What nitrogen fixing trees are you liking? I’ve been watching stuff from Stefan S. One of the things he’s mentioned is grow things that grow like weeds in your area. I figure I’ll put in mulberries and persimmons in to fit that bill. I will put in some honey locust for n fixation, and also have autumn olive growing wild around the house. I’m a little hesitant to put something like autumn olive in my yard on purpose though. Are these invasives getting away from people or are they easier to maintain than it seems? They are already littering yards on our street so autumn olive doesn’t make me super nervous, but some of the other ones that aren’t already here do
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
I guess number one is how it works for people who do it down here? As with many things, people in seemingly easier climates/better soils start doing it and I don’t think it always translates to us in the hot, humid south. What are you doing for weed control and what would you do differently? What combinations of trees are working for you? What nitrogen fixing trees are you liking? I’ve been watching stuff from Stefan S. One of the things he’s mentioned is grow things that grow like weeds in your area. I figure I’ll put in mulberries and persimmons in to fit that bill. I will put in some honey locust for n fixation, and also have autumn olive growing wild around the house. I’m a little hesitant to put something like autumn olive in my yard on purpose though. Are these invasives getting away from people or are they easier to maintain than it seems? They are already littering yards on our street so autumn olive doesn’t make me super nervous, but some of the other ones that aren’t already here do
Well imho i would take it as a starting point to use your own ideas that you see working around your place. Like you said some invasives are here to stay no matter. You might bring in others like say bamboo and cause future problems. One example of a thing i do is use a privet hedge as goat food, then allow muscadine and wild berries to grow up over it like a trellis. I have blueberries planted at the base of this area. You are just gonna have to play with some ideas. Look up a feller named david the good on youtube. Watch his grocery row garden series. He lives in south Alabama zone 8b.
 

sportsman94

Senior Member
Well imho i would take it as a starting point to use your own ideas that you see working around your place. Like you said some invasives are here to stay no matter. You might bring in others like say bamboo and cause future problems. One example of a thing i do is use a privet hedge as goat food, then allow muscadine and wild berries to grow up over it like a trellis. I have blueberries planted at the base of this area. You are just gonna have to play with some ideas. Look up a feller named david the good on youtube. Watch his grocery row garden series. He lives in south Alabama zone 8b.

You know from our pig talks I like to learn from others mistakes whenever possible! Lol. I think My plan as of now is to do one or two rows of trees for this year. Persimmons, pears, crabapple, mulberry for fruit. Maybe some dwarf chinkapin oaks thrown in. I will probably use honey locust and autumn olive for my n fixers unless I can find some wax myrtles (I would love to stay as native as I can if possible). Then for shrubs I would add blackberries, blueberries, beautyberry, strawberry bush, and I’m not sure what else. I’ll check out his videos and see what I can learn! Thanks
 

crackerdave

Senior Member
Will blueberries draw deer in?
And if they do how many do you need to plant to stay ahead of the deer?
Deer will eat some.
We have ten bushes and deer eat some from the low branches.There's still plenty for us.
They need acid low ph soil.
Plant 10 feet apart.They grow big!
 
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