Pre or post emergent

[Bucaramus]

Which would be best to use on established clover plots? Still battling thistle and Johnson grass.

 

[elfiii]

24Db is about your only choice. I been fighting milk thistle in mine for years now. You win some you lose some.

 

[Canuck5]

You could try a weed wiper with a 50/50 solution of glyphosate and just run it 6" above the clover, to get the johnson grass and thistle. Clover is tolerant of glyphosate ..... but will set it back if you touch it.

 

[Canuck5]

weed wick - Google Search

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

Imazethapyr is pretty much your only other choice for thistle but it's not going to do much better than 24db for the money.

Fenoxaprop-ethyl, Fluazifop, or Sethoxydim for the Johnson grass or multiple clethodim applications.

 

[elfiii]

Imazethapyr is pretty much your only other choice for thistle but it's not going to do much better than 24db for the money.

Fenoxaprop-ethyl, Fluazifop, or Sethoxydim for the Johnson grass or multiple clethodim applications.

I've had good luck with 24db on thistle. It's the birds I'm fighting. They drop seed in their poop, it sprouts and develops, I hit it with 24db, it dies, they fly over again, rinse and repeat as necessary.

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

I've had good luck with 24db on thistle. It's the birds I'm fighting. They drop seed in their poop, it sprouts and develops, I hit it with 24db, it dies, they fly over again, rinse and repeat as necessary.

And there's no good preemerge for thistle in clover so that makes it a harder battle

 

[elfiii]

And there's no good preemerge for thistle in clover so that makes it a harder battle

Every Spring I think last year's application did the trick. Then about the first of May here they come again. I try to get them sprayed before they start putting out stalks.

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

Every Spring I think last year's application did the trick. Then about the first of May here they come again. I try to get them sprayed before they start putting out stalks.

Just means you have wonderful neighbors

 

[elfiii]

Just means you have wonderful neighbors

Yep. Somebody ain't holdin' up their end of the bargain. I can't afford to buy all of the 24db out there on the market and give it away.

 

[Bucaramus]

Imazethapyr is pretty much your only other choice for thistle but it's not going to do much better than 24db for the money.

Fenoxaprop-ethyl, Fluazifop, or Sethoxydim for the Johnson grass or multiple clethodim applications.

What rate per gallon of the above mentioned Johnson grass killers?

 

[Jim Boyd]

Imazethapyr is pretty much your only other choice for thistle but it's not going to do much better than 24db for the money.

Fenoxaprop-ethyl, Fluazifop, or Sethoxydim for the Johnson grass or multiple clethodim applications.

…..is that in English, sir??????

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

…..is that in English, sir??????

Uh to me it is

Sethoxydim is 1-2.5 pints/ac
Fluazifop is 1-1.5 pints/ac
Fenoxaprop is 20-28oz/ac

 

[Jim Boyd]

Uh to me it is

Sethoxydim is 1-2.5 pints/ac
Fluazifop is 1-1.5 pints/ac
Fenoxaprop is 20-28oz/ac

Uuhhhh, Senor, no habla Englaise, por favor…….

 

[Jim Boyd]

Uuhhhh, Senor, no habla Englaise, por favor…….

Great report Doom - you know your stuff sir!!!!!

 

[Bucaramus]

Uh to me it is

Sethoxydim is 1-2.5 pints/ac
Fluazifop is 1-1.5 pints/ac
Fenoxaprop is 20-28oz/ac

Seems that those must be quite a bit more potent than Cleth being that you use so little per acre. 2 of my clover plots look really good right now. 2 still need some work. Thanks for your help as always!