World War Two

Resica

Senior Member
the uss New Jersey is on the move. With the anssistance of 4 tugs. Even she is trying to escape the namesake state… heading to Philadelphia naval shipyard, the old nostalgic home and builder of many old warriors.

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She was gonna fire her 16 inchers before she left and was gonna fire them again when she passed Ft. Mifflin, Pa. That was a Revolutionary War fort that the Brits captured when taking over Philadelphia. BB62 is a beautiful ship regardless of being named after the "Garden State".
 

Resica

Senior Member
She was gonna fire her 16 inchers before she left and was gonna fire them again when she passed Ft. Mifflin, Pa. That was a Revolutionary War fort that the Brits captured when taking over Philadelphia. BB62 is a beautiful ship regardless of being named after the "Garden State".
I don't think it was the big guns.
 

Ruger#3

RAMBLIN ADMIN
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I saw Big Mo fire a few broadsides off Kuwait, pretty impressive.
 

Resica

Senior Member
I saw Big Mo fire a few broadsides off Kuwait, pretty impressive.
All of our WW2 battleships are really impressive!!. The 2 North Carolina Class, the South Dakota Class and the Iowas. Would have loved if they built a Montana Class!
I love the heavy Cruisers , Light Cruisers, Destroyers , Destroyer Escorts, Submarines , PT Boats, Minesweepers and all other vessels I missed. Anchors Away!!
 

fishfryer

frying fish driveler
All of our WW2 battleships are really impressive!!. The 2 North Carolina Class, the South Dakota Class and the Iowas. Would have loved if they built a Montana Class!
I love the heavy Cruisers , Light Cruisers, Destroyers , Destroyer Escorts, Submarines , PT Boats, Minesweepers and all other vessels I missed. Anchors Away!!
You need to go talk to the Navy recruiter, he speaks ships fluently. He’ll give you a bus ticket and a meal chit.
 

Ruger#3

RAMBLIN ADMIN
Staff member
Ok you got me interested. There was so much left over propellant from WWII. The Navy was still firing it up through the 90s. The Navy put additives in the load that increased barrel life from about 350 firings to 1,500 firings. They eventually added radar to track the shells and saw the velocities dropping with the aging propellant but the sights could compensate for it.
 

westcobbdog

Senior Member
Saw the story today ( on the story tv channel ) about the German u boats that came to the east coast and sank our merchant ships left and right. They had interviews with folks who witnessed German subs attacking and blowing up a gas tanker off Jax Beach, some seeing it from the Ferris wheel.
The Jerry u boat captain realized if he opened up on the ship the crowd watching from the Ajax beach would be in his 20mm cannon fire. He pivoted his sub and did a 180* turn now between the beach and the ship, then he hit it with cannnon fire sinking her after it blew up.
A few weeks earlier the Brits captured a U boat that was not properly scuttled and didn't sink this capturing the enigma code machine and piles of codes and intel. The Brit's cracked it then quickly warned the US a fleet of u boats were headed their way but the warnings were mostly ignored.
 
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georgia_home

Senior Member
BP still is, even in this day and age. Recall the reason that DOD invested in Goex. Helped them come out of bankruptcy and restart production… iirc ESTES owns them but got the dod help

edit: since coming out of bankruptcy, I may be incorrect about the current owner. ESTES, the toy rocket motor people. Who rely on BP for the rocket motors


Black powder was used as an igniter. The main charge was nitro cellulose.
 
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GeorgiaBob

Senior Member
The black powder commercially made today (anywhere in the world) is not even close to the quality of the BP made by the UK in the 19th century. In fact, most BP makers (worldwide) of the 19th century were far better at quality powders than any made these days. One of the problems with the 12" and 14" guns of WWI was the black powder used to initiate the guncotton (that actually launched the shells) quickly fouled the breach blocks. The Brits went back to old methods and made a nearly smokeless BP. The US never managed that! The PB used in in the bagged powder guns of US warships was never clean!

One of the reasons the Army "saved" GOEX was to insure an adequate supply of the coarse unpolished industrial BP that the army uses for a number of purposes, but especially as igniter core in several weapons. Allowing GOE to also make recreational powders (for black powder firearms, BP cannons, etc.) also provides the company revenue to continue BP development. Maybe, someday, they can make powder as good as it was made 200 years ago!
 

fishfryer

frying fish driveler
The black powder commercially made today (anywhere in the world) is not even close to the quality of the BP made by the UK in the 19th century. In fact, most BP makers (worldwide) of the 19th century were far better at quality powders than any made these days. One of the problems with the 12" and 14" guns of WWI was the black powder used to initiate the guncotton (that actually launched the shells) quickly fouled the breach blocks. The Brits went back to old methods and made a nearly smokeless BP. The US never managed that! The PB used in in the bagged powder guns of US warships was never clean!

One of the reasons the Army "saved" GOEX was to insure an adequate supply of the coarse unpolished industrial BP that the army uses for a number of purposes, but especially as igniter core in several weapons. Allowing GOE to also make recreational powders (for black powder firearms, BP cannons, etc.) also provides the company revenue to continue BP development. Maybe, someday, they can make powder as good as it was made 200 years ago!
Very interesting
 
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