5.56 Defensive Loads

[Mars]

I've shot rifles a good bit indoors(with ear pro). It is extremely loud and the concussion is significant. Having said that, I think a rifle is more effective for me in my situation. My nearest neighbor is hundreds of yards away through thick woods so that isn't really a concern and anything more than a 22lr would likely go through every wall in my house from any given point.

 

[Tight Lines]

Pistol rounds don’t break up like rifle rounds

Which can make them more of a hazard despite their lower velocities

5.56 would actually be safer than 9mm Luger

All guns are very loud inside a room with out a suppressor

Have you ever tried shooting into a berm so you can find your rounds? 9MM JHP will often be mangled and on the surface...an inch or two below a furrow. The 5.56 M193 will create a 12" furrow and be much more difficult to find...YMMV

 

[Mars]

I'm practically a CIA Delta Seal

 

[WOODIE13]

I'm practically a CIA Delta SealView attachment 1256782

Just need to have M60s firing above your head as you enter the 1st floor engaging targets with M16A2s and M9s

 

[Mars]

Just need to have M60s firing above your head as you enter the 1st floor engaging targets with M16A2s and M9s

I got my 4yo on the mini gun at the top of the stairs.

 

[WOODIE13]

I got my 4yo on the mini gun at the top of the stairs.

And cooking off frags

 

[SC Hunter]

In all reality I'll know before somebody gets into our home 99 times out of 100. We have big dogs outside, 2 of which will gnaw if they don't know you and we're not outside, that wake up and raise hades. I really don't want to be cooking off rounds inside the house anyway and messing up the walls. My wife would be super upset if a bullet hit her nice counter tops or something messes up the paint. Please don't come in uninvited.

 

[lampern]

Have you ever tried shooting into a berm so you can find your rounds? 9MM JHP will often be mangled and on the surface...an inch or two below a furrow. The 5.56 M193 will create a 12" furrow and be much more difficult to find...YMMV

5.56 193 fragments into pieces when it hits something. Its designed to do that.

 

[Qazaq15]

5.56 193 fragments into pieces when it hits something. Its designed to do that.

I think it’s a byproduct of their speed. I can’t see how someone would design a jacketed round to break into pieces.

 

[lampern]

I think it’s a byproduct of their speed. I can’t see how someone would design a jacketed round to break into pieces.

The US military and Remington Arms did just that

Hence the 223 Remington/5.56 NATO cartridge which is legal to use in war

 

[Tight Lines]

The US military and Remington Arms did just that

Hence the 223 Remington/5.56 NATO cartridge which is legal to use in war

I'm not sure where you picked up the myth about a 5.56 breaking apart...it tumbles more than other rounds maybe, but it isn't designed to fragment. There are specific rounds designed to do that, called frangible, but I can assure you that the M193 FMJ is not designed to be frangible.

If you can find anything that refutes that I'd love to read it and revise my statement.

The military reasons for the 5.56 were that a soldier could carry more ammo, and wounded soldiers were more important to the unwounded soldiers than a dead one...so it takes more out of the fight. Other than that, it was to design a round that would be highly portable, fast, and accurate...and a weapon that was reliable to fire it quickly...

 

[kmckinnie]

I'm not sure where you picked up the myth about a 5.56 breaking apart...it tumbles more than other rounds maybe, but it isn't designed to fragment. There are specific rounds designed to do that, called frangible, but I can assure you that the M193 FMJ is not designed to be frangible.

If you can find anything that refutes that I'd love to read it and revise my statement.

The military reasons for the 5.56 were that a soldier could carry more ammo, and wounded soldiers were more important to the unwounded soldiers than a dead one...so it takes more out of the fight. Other than that, it was to design a round that would be highly portable, fast, and accurate...and a weapon that was reliable to fire it quickly...

Yeap.
Now the one I box I took picks of. It’s a hollow point. It will open up completely on hogs and the few deer. I hear the report of hits pretty good. Big hogs it never comes out. Deer may have 2 or 3 holes coming out. It does a number to the insides.
The military rounds as u said. They say they tumble. Even when hitting the brush in VNam. I bet that would do a number in war fare.
I would think the soft points at 2800 fps would break up too. Flatten out.

 

[lampern]

M193 ammunition: Everything you wanted to know - Battle Born Review

M193 ammunition: Everything you wanted to know about this 55gr bullet that is still in use by the military, as well as police and civilians.

battlebornreview.com

The primary wounding mechanism of M193 ammo is that it fragments under certain conditions.

m193 was designed to fragment, making it legal to use in warfare

 

[Tight Lines]

M193 ammunition: Everything you wanted to know - Battle Born Review

M193 ammunition: Everything you wanted to know about this 55gr bullet that is still in use by the military, as well as police and civilians.

battlebornreview.com

m193 was designed to fragment, making it legal to use in warfare

OK

 

[lampern]

As you said earlier it is velocity dependent

Military spec M193 is driven so fast it breaks up in the body

Most commercial FMJ 223 ammo won't do that

Its designed for punching paper

Winchester makes actual M193 spec 5.56 ammunition

 

[Jester896]

fragmenting bullets have been banned from International Warfare
a M193 or XM193 bullet may not even deform on the way through. The Winchester M193 is hot..3270fps and the Federal XM193 runs 3240fps

 

[Tight Lines]

fragmenting bullets have been banned from International Warfare

I know right? If the internet says it's true, it must be!

 

[lampern]

Mushrooming bullets have been banned by most countries for war

Fragmenting bullets have not been banned

Do not ask me why that is

 

[Jester896]

Full metal jacket (ammunition) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[trial&error]

I can attest that if you grab the wrong mag and shoot a coyote, deer or bear with a FMJ round you get a pencil sized exit hole. Also works on 1/4" steel plate, leaves a nice copper ring. Never seen any fragmentation. Not that I'm an internet expert, just my observations.