AT&T vs Verizon vs Stock antennas vs Booster Antenna

Anthony61

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In testing and evaluating booster antennas and to help me select the best bang for the buck I put myself through a lot of tedious work and data gathering.

Without a lot of numbers and charts I will boil it down here and it is interesting. I feel what I learned is helpful when considering purchasing a booster antenna for your cellular camera.

Camera used: Ridgetec Lookout Dual.
Video Mode: file size of the video clip during all uploads is 7.48Mb +/- 20kb.

I can monitor server "business" or "Load". I waited for periods of minimum load and avoided ##:00 and ##:30 as these are the times when cameras report in for my upload batches.

All testing was done between 9:00am and 11:00am.

Keep in mind that upload duration includes all the overhead of HTTPS and server handshaking and CRC checking by the camera and is not a true upload speed for LTE and the module.

In all tests an average was used from 6 video uploads occurring back to back to maximize both network and server loads for consistency.

Also, there were no errors encountered during uploads and no retries by the camera.


TEST #1:

Verizon SIM
Stock Antenna (shipping antennas)
Reported signal 68%
Average video clip upload duration: 73 seconds

TEST #2:
Verizon SIM
18dbi gain booster antenna on Left antenna port (primary)
reported signal: 70%
Average upload time decreased by 3 seconds.


TEST #3:
AT&T SIM
Stock Antenna (shipping antennas)
Reported signal 62.50%
Average video clip upload duration: 141 seconds

TEST #4:
AT&T SIM
18dbi gain booster antenna on Left antenna port (primary)
reported signal: 71%
Average upload times remained the same.


Another interesting thing was that on each upload batch the first video clip upload on AT&T was approx. 20 seconds longer and sometimes would negotiate 3G then switch to 4G. This phenomenon did not happe on Verizon and first and last upload in a batch was consistently the same. I can only attribute this to an AT&T network "feature".

Conclusions:

For me, at this location:

1. A booster antenna does not help me at all. I am going to recommend adding a booster antenna with a signal of 60% or more on LTE will not necessarily improve upload speed significantly using a Booster antenna but it won't hurt.

However keep in mind that in a lot of rural locations for both carriers I have seen and documented a diurnal pattern of lower signal at night and signal boost in the day. It is a fact that carriers will adjust tower strengths to maximize "customer satisfaction".
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If a camera has these signal swings then a booster antenna might just be what the doctor ordered.

I have heard this explained by the following reasoning: In the morning and during the day workers, repairmen, delivery trucks are heading from town out to the rural areas and need cell service. Then at night they return to the city, and as well everyone gets home from work where they have alternative wifi coverage in rural homesteads as an alternative to cellular. In the city everyone is off work visiting bars, stores, etc and need the cell service also kids are home from school. so, they push more rural signal in the day for commerce and reduce it at night in the rural area in favor of pushing it into the urban areas.

2. Verizon throughput was double on average than AT&T and that AT&T does some throughput manipulation such that continued upload streaming improves the speed but that the initial speed is somewhat slower on a connection/upload event batch (no disconnections during the uploading). My interpretation on this may be incorrect as it may just take 10 to 20 seconds to negotiate the best speeds for prolonged uploads on AT&T.

Now, there are so many variables here. My initial goal was to select the "best" booster antenna but my results showed other issues. one is that when your signal is 4G LTE and 60+% a booster antenna just doesn't do you much good.

However in other locations, I have compared AT&T with and without booster and seen my camera go from 3G 50% signal to 4G LTE 62.50% signal. I did not perform the above testing but I will get around to it. In this case my hunch is that the booster antenna will make an enormous improvement on upload speed, which we all know directly relates to improved battery life. AT&T will not support 3G forever however.


I hope this helps someone. It is all very interesting to me. Also keep in mind this camera uses a block mode transfer with CRC32 error correction during uploading to maximize delivery potential. thus it is unfair to try and compare theoretical LTE upload speeds to what I am reporting here.

In all fairness to AT&T, I would also not make the conclusion that all areas in the country would have these same relative results. It could be completely backwards in other locations. This would require a controlled long term study over all parts of the country etc (which I do not have time to do)
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PS: Yes I have revealed some inside knowledge here on this camera but I felt the information was needed to fully understand the test results and my goal is to convey my conclusions about the antennas actually.
 
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XIronheadX

PF Trump Cam Operator !20/20
I think the signal swings happen more often with the weaker antennas. I have one brand of cell cam that fluctuates more than 45% on occasion. I bought another brand cell cam and I get 5 bars of service just about all the time where the other wouldn't even work. Both Verizon.
 

sghoghunter

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I'm very simple minded when it comes to electronics but I think your saying an aftermarket antenna isn't really needed but if you buy one it can't hurt right? In my situation I'm using two different brands but both Verizon with one having a booster antenna and one not. The one with booster antenna I can get 4 bars with and 3 without while other brand camera has stock antenna with 5 bars at same location. Which cell service seemed to be better?
 

XIronheadX

PF Trump Cam Operator !20/20
It could mean the Ridgetec he's using already has a good stock antenna. Hi gain didn't improve it much.
 

whitter

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Wow, just when I thought I was getting a handle on things I see all this new data that will require this old head to try to wrap around. Thanks for the new information but I feel I am still going to use my booster antennas until the squirrels chew them off:) although my stock ridgetec setup was doing fine, I felt better (without reason ) changing things and be able to brag about it a little bit.(y)
 

Anthony61

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Sorry, what I am saying essentially is that if you have a great signal a booster antennas can't make great any better. but a really poor signal is likely very improvable.

And watch out for the diurnal cycle of bad signal at night and better in the daytime. this could also benefit from a booster antenna.
 

XIronheadX

PF Trump Cam Operator !20/20
I usually get higher signals in the evening, Anthony. Usually about the time traffic dies out on highways. Road warriors clogging up the towers.
 

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