rnelson5
Senior Member
You would just spend it
That would be ok. You can't take it with you so you might as well.
You would just spend it
Hunting has already become a rich mans sport. Soon it will be about like Europe as far as access and cost
Gone are the days like when I grew up. We went where we wanted hunted where wanted. If you killed ducks or deer you shared some with land owner. As long as you picked up after yourself and made sure you closed the gate you were always invited back. You might be ask to help an older farmer out with his hay field during time to bale his hay. Or help him feed the cows or the hogs when he was out of town. You always had several places and I mean good places to hunt.You said it Chase. I've never out a pencil to it, and I would be afraid to be honest enough with myself to do it. But I guarantee you that between what I've spent on hunting (all kinds of hunting) as well as what wages I've given up due to hunting, it would probably be in 6 digit figures, and I'm not one of those guys who can get into a 10,000$ club every year. But those guys and other folks like corporate places that lease land for clients, are snatching up resources as fast as they can at a more than premium price. We the little folks are getting pushed out, and there's not a lot we can do about it. And that goes for all types of hunting....here, Arkansas, just about anywhere where there's game to hunt.
It is all about the money. Here, they are working on passing Sunday hunting for the whole state on private land. Only issue for waterfowl, it does not include any public waters which make up most of the state WF hunting. Takes a week off the season, total, epic. Lobbyist are the downfall of the common man, but when the metal meets the meat, ($$$$) they may listen.
Thats why i will be spending allot of money at Disney world next week end. St pattys day at Ragland Road.That would be ok. You can't take it with you so you might as well.
Gil these young folks just dont know how good it was back in our younger days, I killed allot of ducks in the same places you did.Certain aspects of hunting do require a lot of money. Wild quail in Thomasville for one. As far as deer, turkey, and small game, no. We are lucky to live in a state with an abundance of public land. As for ducks, we are affected by habitat destruction, changes in flyway and agricultural shortstopping beyond our control. I don't ever expect Georgia to return to the good old days of duck hunting which weren't that long ago. Gil
limited resources, bad state economy, the way to pay for it is higher out of state fees. What happens to that windfall of cash is it goes into the general state fund for schools , roads, hospitals and only a small amount if any will end on this project.
The state of Arkansas will do what it wants to do.
I am not defending or supporting what they are going to do. I am just giving you the prediction that they will do there best to get out of state folks to pay all the while they will be shutting down the out of state hunters.
Gil these young folks just dont know how good it was back in our younger days, I killed allot of ducks in the same places you did.
Yes sir. I do remember it. We did not know how good we had it.Saltwater intrusion caused by the tide gates was a real killer of habitat up the Savannah River. Black Ducks, not mottled, were fairly common around the Savannah River delta. It was no big deal to kill mallards, gadwall, wigeon, and teal on public land. At dawn, one could see thousands of high altitude ducks moving overhead from the refuge to the ocean and reverse flights at dusk. No one I knew in this area would bother to drive to Darien as we had all the ducks we needed within a 20 minute drive to a boat ramp. At one time, the refuge allowed hunting on the north side of 17 excepting the area adjacent to the headquarters. It wasn't Arkansas, but it wasn't bad, either. Gil
Why would you expect anything different. Hunters in Arkansas are seeing places they have hunted forever being taken over by folks that have allot more money than they do. the poor folks in that state do not have the wealth on average that some of these other folks coming in do. I see the same thing here in south Georgia with the hunters that come from Florida. You see these folks coming in during deer season in convoys. New Trucks pulling a trailer with at least three brand new four wheelers. The next truck is pulling a great big very nice camper. You know they are headed to there deer camp. Local hunters that do not have that money the local hunters find that the states public land is full of these folks as well as the local private lands in the area with posted signs with out of state phone numbers.
Its the same way in Arkansas. These folks have the power to vote and the out of state folks do not. Add to that the better than you attitude.
I remember when gas was 25 cents a gallon and an 8 oz coke was 5 cents.And how did the hunting shows mess up the hunting of years ago? Or the new hunters.
I always hear the young ones are the future of our sport, but seems to me the young guys are hated on. One day all the old timer duck killers will be gone, and without the new guys so will duck hunting.
things change, life changes, I hear some say how cheap a duck stamp was back when moses lived, well my daddy remembers when gas was 5 cents a gallon. its always been about the money. always will be.
Why private funds? This is a public area. Maybe DU or other organizations could pitch in.
I remember when gas was 25 cents a gallon and an 8 oz coke was 5 cents.
Why would you expect anything different. Hunters in Arkansas are seeing places they have hunted forever being taken over by folks that have allot more money than they do. the poor folks in that state do not have the wealth on average that some of these other folks coming in do. I see the same thing here in south Georgia with the hunters that come from Florida. You see these folks coming in during deer season in convoys. New Trucks pulling a trailer with at least three brand new four wheelers. The next truck is pulling a great big very nice camper. You know they are headed to there deer camp. Local hunters that do not have that money the local hunters find that the states public land is full of these folks as well as the local private lands in the area with posted signs with out of state phone numbers.
Its the same way in Arkansas. These folks have the power to vote and the out of state folks do not. Add to that the better than you attitude.
Something is coming for OOS hunters, you can bank on that. Of 2 of the options I've heard, I can live with one but the other won't suit me at all. Either a couple of 3 to 5 day splits for locals only (fine by me), or a couple to 3 splits of 3 to 5 days where OOS hunters are allowed in (not fine by me). But what I wonder is if they're still gonna keep the WMA stamp fee at the current price while limiting OOS hunters to less time in the woods. I can tell you, less people are gonna pay it, and less money per license is gonna hurt the AFGS budgets