alphachief
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Too funny...me too. Just like I gave up the NBA when Larry Bird retired and really haven't watched a Braves game since Chipper left for hunt camp.
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Too funny...me too. Just like I gave up the NBA when Larry Bird retired and really haven't watched a Braves game since Chipper left for hunt camp.
Patriot44
Banned
Television glamor has had a lot to do with it. I remember wrenching on Go Carts in the late 80's listening to NASCAR on the radio and getting pumped before running some practice.
My uncle and his friends would line them up and run some 20 lappers and I was the flag boy. I also was the tractor buy and watered down the track. The good ole days of DW, Petty and Earnhardt. Davey too.
My uncle and his friends would line them up and run some 20 lappers and I was the flag boy. I also was the tractor buy and watered down the track. The good ole days of DW, Petty and Earnhardt. Davey too.
Patriot44
Banned
And the Bush brothers. One is gay and the other is a homosexual.
Nitram4891
Flop Thief
I enjoy going to Talladega and watching the super speedways and short tracks on TV but the rest of it...meh
poohbear
Senior Member
In the old days they would lean on each other to make a pass and if you leaned too much it usually resulted in a fight in the pits, they governed their selves , but today they get a penalty , not exiting at all. Let them run with what they brung and hash out problems and it will bring exitment back.
Howard Roark
Retired Moderator
Empty seats at Indy yesterday.
Mexican Squealer
Senior Member
Never been a fan. Always makes for good people watching though. Red necks ever whar
Cook&Bro
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Miguel Cervantes
Jedi Master
I think NASCAR could succeed if they did one simple thing.
Went back to their roots and drug the cars right off of the show room floor, modified their interior for safety, beef up the stock manufacturer engines and let em rip.
Outside of that simple fix that the France family will never do, John Malone, owner of Formula 1 racing should buy them and make the appropriate adjustments.
Went back to their roots and drug the cars right off of the show room floor, modified their interior for safety, beef up the stock manufacturer engines and let em rip.
Outside of that simple fix that the France family will never do, John Malone, owner of Formula 1 racing should buy them and make the appropriate adjustments.
Buckman18
Senior Member
This. And none of the drivers have an individual identity. They are all little politicians regurgitating PC corporate stump speeches... NASCAR is a redneck sport, but they forgot that long ago.
Looks like Trump is going to have to Make NASCAR Great Again.
across the river
Senior Member
Honestly, I think has way more to do with the drivers than the cars. Dale Sr, Waltrip, Junior Johnson, Petty, etc.... all had big personalities. Even Bobby Labonte, and Dale Jarret had enough "neck" in them that people would follow them. Everyone had a "driver" they rooted for, so you tuned in or went to the race to pull for "your" driver. In the mid 90's everyone pulled against Jeff Gordon, because he was the pretty boy metrosexual guy that could really race. No one wanted to see Gordon beat their good l'boy, and everyone hated to see him win, which he did a lot. Now they are all Jeff Gordon clones. When Dale Sr. and Waltrip wrecked each there you believed they were going to fight whether they did or not. That was good T.V. It kept you on the edge of your seat. Does anyone even believe slightly believe Joey Longano and Austin Dillion are going to even slap fight if they wreck each other? No. The drivers are just way too cookie cutter and corporate nowadays, and they get swapped out all of the time for new guys. The traditional fans that always had a "driver" haven't found a replacement for the ones who no longer race, and the new guys don't have the personality, or aren't allowed to express it in a manner to draw in new fans. It doesn't matter what car they drive, if people don't have a "team" to pull for, it just isn't that interesting.
Miguel Cervantes
Jedi Master
The drivers didn't institute restrictor plates and other regulations that made the cars virtual clones of each other and nothing resembling the manufacturer they were suppose to represent.
Today's drivers are merely a reflection of the corporate butt kissing and over regulations the France family has done over the decades to keep their hands in the game.
I had the good fortune to assist two different NASCAR families back in the day. The Bonnett's and the Allison's and by virtue of that I was exposed to many other of their associated friends / drivers. Yes they were big personalities. No, they didn't have to put up with anything in regulations and car type near what today's drivers do. Today's drivers are a product of NASCAR, not the other way around.
KyDawg
Gone But Not Forgotten
It is not any one thing but several factors and most but not all of them were brought forth by the younger France. The Cookie cutter, cars, tracks and drivers, the endless juggling with the rules, the attention span of the millennials, the aging of the base and NASCAR trying to control every single nut and bole that goes into these car. I am an old time fan from the early 60's and the innovation that the car builders brought to the sport back then were unbelievable. Let some try that now and they are penalized out of the chase.
