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Very impressive all the way around, the booster landings were phenomenal. Has anybody heard if the sea landing went well?
Not only a sea landing, but a drone boat.
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I'll race a 2017 Ford Sedan against a Ford Model T, anytime.

I'll be impressed if Musk ever comes up with something new.

Actual new, not just using today's tech to do the same thing better than was done before. So far he hasn't shown a new idea.

Next, he will produce a new and improved buggy whip (for a massive tax subsidy). He is so smart.
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I'll race a 2017 Ford Sedan against a Ford Model T, anytime.

I'll be impressed if Musk ever comes up with something new.

Actual new, not just using today's tech to do the same thing better than was done before. So far he hasn't shown a new idea.

Next, he will produce a new and improved buggy whip (for a massive tax subsidy). He is so smart.
He is doing more than posting links on GON.
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Amazing,,,, what a launch,,,, years ago watched the shuttle Challenger explosion on launch from Tampa,,,, what a sad day,,,,
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Very impressive all the way around, the booster landings were phenomenal. Has anybody heard if the sea landing went well?
It didn't land. Only one of 3 engines fired and it landed about 300 ft away and crashed.

Regardless, what SpaceX is doing is just freaking awesome. I get goosebumps every time they do a launch. Watching the live videos and hearing the employees cheer is the best part. They have put a lot of brain power together for an awesome result.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...failed-landing
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/16...elon-musk-mars
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Seems they've over shot mars and the tesla is headed to the asteroid belt. Rut roe
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It didn't land. Only one of 3 engines fired and it landed about 300 ft away and crashed.

Regardless, what SpaceX is doing is just freaking awesome. I get goosebumps every time they do a launch. Watching the live videos and hearing the employees cheer is the best part. They have put a lot of brain power together for an awesome result.
I've watched it five times, It was straight out of scifi
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If I were gonna b launching a rocket to space. I would not put a Tesla on the top. But maybe something useful?

But still, I'm very proud of what is being accomplished
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It takes 18 months to two years to reach Mars with a projectile launched from Earth. But that is just because of physics and we all know con men sucking on subsidies don't believe in physics.
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It takes 18 months to two years to reach Mars with a projectile launched from Earth. But that is just because of physics and we all know con men sucking on subsidies don't believe in physics.
So Boeing and Lockheed Martin are con men?
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So Boeing and Lockheed Martin are con men?
Neither Boeing or LM are promising Mars shots in less than months. But as denizens of the MIC that's a good description.
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Neither Boeing or LM are promising Mars shots in less than months. But as denizens of the MIC that's a good description.
What's your plan Mr genius?
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What's your plan Mr genius?
Plan for what?

I haven't yet, nor do I expect to, inoculate the gullible against the con artists.

If you don't know enough to recognize you are being lied to, there is nothing I have time to post to educate you past 3rd grade at a public school.

It's not that I think I am smart. It's that I believe in reality. And have studied history, also have a good memory.

Remember the history of NASA? And what they had to do to start men in orbit? Remember (or were you ever aware of) the Mercury program? The Gemini program? before the Apollo program? How much they cost, and how many test rockets they blew up, before they had successful launches?

So before sending a monkey to orbit the earth, Musk will send a fancy golf cart, to Mars.
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i have absolutely 0 interest in anything to do with "space".
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just what we need another piece of space junk to track and have useful satellites avoid.
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Plan for what?

I haven't yet, nor do I expect to, inoculate the gullible against the con artists.

If you don't know enough to recognize you are being lied to, there is nothing I have time to post to educate you past 3rd grade at a public school.

It's not that I think I am smart. It's that I believe in reality. And have studied history, also have a good memory.

Just filling in for Sinclair

Remember the history of NASA? And what they had to do to start men in orbit? Remember (or were you ever aware of) the Mercury program? The Gemini program? before the Apollo program? How much they cost, and how many test rockets they blew up, before they had successful launches?

So before sending a monkey to orbit the earth, Musk will send a fancy golf cart, to Mars.
Just filling in for Sinclair
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Neither Boeing or LM are promising Mars shots in less than months. But as denizens of the MIC that's a good description.
The content of your comment was regarding funds received from NASA, not the destination.

Boeing / Lockheed Martin received $4.6 billion from NASA to EM's $2.6 billion. If money is the moniker of evil, which recipient is the worst?
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The content of your comment was regarding funds received from NASA, not the destination.

Boeing / Lockheed Martin received $4.6 billion from NASA to EM's $2.6 billion. If money is the moniker of evil, which recipient is the worst?
Spread out over how many years, each?

NASA went from what they got from the NAZI's after WWII to landing men on the moon and back. Launching Sats for GPS and weather.

Don't forget Europe, Russia, India and sundry. EM is doing nothing new. And the MIC will sell to anybody for anything.
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It takes 18 months to two years to reach Mars with a projectile launched from Earth. But that is just because of physics and we all know con men sucking on subsidies don't believe in physics.
According to Google, about 150-300 days, depending launch angle and the point of orbit of Mars at the time.
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According to Google, about 150-300 days, depending launch angle and the point of orbit of Mars at the time.
Also depends on if you want to send intact human beings or jelly. Your orbit time may vary depending on reaction mass available. As with a moon shot, getting there isn't hard, safely stopping is.
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I'm pretty sure the vertical landing of rockets was all private ingenuity, since NASA tried for decades and never figure it out.

NASA is hedging it's bets on Lockheed-Martin / Boeing joint venture aka United Alliance. The issue is, it costs UA $380 million per launch with no readily recoverable assets of the rocket. Musk launches occur at $90 million per launch with the rocket boosters landing safely and vertically back on earth and reusable for future launches exponentially reducing the cost of each launch.

NASA awarded UA a $4.2 billion contract to compete for sending humans to the ISS. They simultaneously awarded Musk $2.6 billion in contract to compete for the same.

My money is on Musk. His business philosophy is far superior to the others.
This...

But he may be an alien.
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Plan for what?

I haven't yet, nor do I expect to, inoculate the gullible against the con artists.

If you don't know enough to recognize you are being lied to, there is nothing I have time to post to educate you past 3rd grade at a public school.

It's not that I think I am smart. It's that I believe in reality. And have studied history, also have a good memory.

Remember the history of NASA? And what they had to do to start men in orbit? Remember (or were you ever aware of) the Mercury program? The Gemini program? before the Apollo program? How much they cost, and how many test rockets they blew up, before they had successful launches?

So before sending a monkey to orbit the earth, Musk will send a fancy golf cart, to Mars.
Been a good long while since a mic has been dropped so hard. Gave me the gooseflesh.
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According to Google, about 150-300 days, depending launch angle and the point of orbit of Mars at the time.
and that is with the vehicle running in excess of 10,000 mph.

That rocket is booging.
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