Deer Growling??? On deer and deer hunting tv show.

short stop

Senior Member
I have never heard a buck Growl . I hunt in IL ,I hunt in Ga ---nearly 90 days during deer season . Nearly every day and I see the same bucks over and over . I hear 'em grunt all the time , wheeze . I never heard a growlin 24 yrs of trompin thru the woods daylight and dark . ---Another Gimmick- to seperate the fool and his $
 

Count Down

Senior Member
Well I'll say this to all of those that have been hunting since Moses was a private...Every season is new, and the gadgets all have some basis of truth. I haven't seen the "growl" video. So I may be off base. But in November of last year in Randolph County I was stalking through a 5 y/o platings of pine. Found a covered area and held up for a minute. Not long after I sat there, I heard a noise that I could only compare it to a calf missing it's mother..Though it was slightly deeper. It was about 3-5 seconds long and and repeated 3 times. Toward the direction of "calf" noise I saw three young bucks trotting through the trees. They were coming from different directions and all heading to the sound of the noise, I took aim and noticed nothing was bigger than a 4 point...I don't know if I would have called it a growl, but I had never heard this noise before, nor had I seen it used in a call...But, I'll tell you sitting 200 yards into these trees while it was getting dark, that noise sent a chill down my spine..But I believe it was a buck.....I'm going to listen to the call and see if it's similar. Believe me or not, but my hunting partner was on the other side of the pines in a stand, and heard the same thing...And, it sent chills down his spine as well. I know what I heard..Simple as that.
 

MoeBirds

Senior Member
Lee County said:
Well I'll say this to all of those that have been hunting since Moses was a private...Every season is new, and the gadgets all have some basis of truth. I haven't seen the "growl" video. So I may be off base. But in November of last year in Randolph County I was stalking through a 5 y/o platings of pine. Found a covered area and held up for a minute. Not long after I sat there, I heard a noise that I could only compare it to a calf missing it's mother..Though it was slightly deeper. It was about 3-5 seconds long and and repeated 3 times. Toward the direction of "calf" noise I saw three young bucks trotting through the trees. They were coming from different directions and all heading to the sound of the noise, I took aim and noticed nothing was bigger than a 4 point...I don't know if I would have called it a growl, but I had never heard this noise before, nor had I seen it used in a call...But, I'll tell you sitting 200 yards into these trees while it was getting dark, that noise sent a chill down my spine..But I believe it was a buck.....I'm going to listen to the call and see if it's similar. Believe me or not, but my hunting partner was on the other side of the pines in a stand, and heard the same thing...And, it sent chills down his spine as well. I know what I heard..Simple as that.

Ironicly, I also reported hearing a similar sound in Randolph County, posted earlier on this very thread:eek: ?!

Now just to be clear, I'm well aware of the scare-tactic the ole bumkin so-called huntin guide out there at "Georgia No-Bucks and No-Beards" uses to mess with his hunters:rolleyes: ?!

Having watched the ole **** do it a few times. He takes a piano cord and runs it thru a metal funnell of sorts and you can hear this GROWL for about a mile:hair: ?!

.........But what I heard was entirely different and subtler and much closer to a buck grunt than the "roar"the ole timer's contraption makes :eek: ?!

I'm gonna go ahead and part with my money and will post that pick of my Booner on the braggin board:fine: ...... probably sometime around December:bounce: !?
 

Count Down

Senior Member
Bound2Ramble said:
Ironicly, I also reported hearing a similar sound in Randolph County, posted earlier on this very thread:eek: ?!

Now just to be clear, I'm well aware of the scare-tactic the ole bumkin so-called huntin guide out there at "Georgia No-Bucks and No-Beards" uses to mess with his hunters:rolleyes: ?!

Having watched the ole **** do it a few times. He takes a piano cord and runs it thru a metal funnell of sorts and you can hear this GROWL for about a mile:hair: ?!

.........But what I heard was entirely different and subtler and much closer to a buck grunt than the "roar"the ole timer's contraption makes :eek: ?!

I'm gonna go ahead and part with my money and will post that pick of my Booner on the braggin board:fine: ...... probably sometime around December:bounce: !?

Bound, I did read your post on Randolph County. That is what solidfied me to respond. I never spoke of the noise I heard since we left. Just kinda forgot about it..But it's a fresh memory now...I think I'll try that call...never know, do you. Could be anothe P&Y for Randolph County.
 

the HEED!

Banned
The best/most deer behavior/actions I saw was behind my house last season in Cobb. It was awesome, I saw more running, grunting, chasing, scraping, responding to calls, etc. I had a 6pt chasing does and he was making a gutarul rurrrrrrrrrr type sound, deeper and rougher than a grunt, more like huffing from running and being tired, I too saw the show and the deer were always doing that when running maybe its a " I'm tired of chasing you" sound they make


There are probally tons of things deer do we'll never catch on video or see in the woods.
 

ngabowhunter

Senior Member
I too thought the buck growl was a bunch of ** until I inherited a bunch of longbow magazines from the 70's and there was an article in one of them about a hunter taking a buck that had been growling.
 

Count Down

Senior Member
Ok...I just went to Cabellas and they had a link to the video. That grunt dosen't sound much different than my current one. Also, it dosen't sound anything like what I heard in the woods that day. I'm not sure how they classify this call as a growl...Maybe the sound is distorted thru the internet, but it sounds more like a standard grunt.
 

DCHunter

Senior Member
Snakeman said:
Okay, let's think about this for just a minute........

The "big dogs" of hunting (Real Tree/Buckmasters/Mossy Oak/the Drurys) have been in the woods for several years now (Real Tree is up to Monster Bucks 14 or something?). Why is it JUST NOW that someone has identified this "buck growl", and just when the "discoverers" have developed a call for it?

As far as the bucks running in from everywhere coming to the call, has anyone ever heard of video editing?

Those of you who believe you have heard the call in the woods, did other deer come running to the call?

I've spent a fair amount of time in the woods, I've read a number of books and magazines about hunting, and I've seen more than a few shows and videos, and I've come to one conclusion about deer hunting...............

ANY tactic will work sometime, somewhere, under some conditions, for some deer.

The Snakeman

I was thinking something along those lines. I don't doubt that the growl exists. And they may have not even edited the video they showed. But I'd place a bet that they recorded 200 videos before they got the 1 video showing all the bucks coming in like that.
 

letmeoutside

Senior Member
I didn't see the show, but I read an article in last month's North American Whitetail on the subject.

I'm with the skeptics - ya'll let me know how it works out!
 

BgDadyBeardBustr

Gone But Not Forgotten
I too saw the show. If you were listening to the times that it was heard they said that the rut was in full swing. This sound was not made during any other time. I have Knight and Hale E-Z Grutter that has a very deep low pitch sound. I have used this call since it came out on the market. The color i have is in the old brown realtree camo. That tells you how old it is. I have heard bucks grunting while chasing does and have plenty of videos where they were chasing and grunting. The call I have sounds nothing like a buck grunting while he is chasing a doe, but it has called in more bucks than any other call I have ever used. A mature buck will have a deeper grunt than younger bucks. The clicking sound that has been imitated by Knight and Hale in the last couple of years is made by mature bucks. Its just like people. The older you get the deeper your voice gets. I have used my grunt call and made some sounds that sounds like the growl sound that was filmed by Drury and the guy from Tenn. I had alot of response by the deer I was gruntting too. The only deer my son has every shot came to the edge of a field when I made this growl sound. He started scraping and rubbing trees while coming towards our location on the edge of the field we were hunting. He checked a doe in the field and ran off a smaller buck as well. This was eight years ago this season comming up. The buck in my avatar came to this same growl call as well. An old hunter that passed away this past spring told me that there is a 24 hour period when a doe is in estrus and a buck will not leave her side once she starts to come in. This was told to me 20 years ago. So if you take into consideration frustration, time period, and the amount of deer you have on your property, it is possible that a buck would make this sound while with a doe. Other bucks hear the sound and come to check and see if they can take this doe away from the buck who is frustated and tired and ready to do some loving.:D Men get this way when they drink and are at a bar. Its called testosterone.:cheers: That is why so many fights occur at a bar. Think of this call as deer at a bar looking for a woman that is ready for action and look back at the times you were dating and see what you think. This call may have been used at night when no one was hunting in your area. If you only hunt three hours at first light and then three hours in the middle of the day and then three hours in the afternoon, then you have three to six hours of daylight when you are not in the stand plus the time it is dark and you can not see. I too have heard this sound but I used it as a secret call in the past. Its more of a very agressive grut sound that is deeper and longer than a grunt. I will not use it unless I know that the rut is in full swing. I have used it for several years. Look back at the times you have seen a buck chasing a doe. You grunt softly and then get longer and more agressive because of the adrinalin that is pumping because you are trying to stop that buck so you can get off a shot. If he don't stop you are basiclly making the growling sound but not realizing it. I am not promoting this call or any other call. I just use what I know works for me. This call was made during a territorial mode that the bucks were in because of testoterone. If you purchase this call and use it improperly you will scare more deer than you will see. So therfore it will become a gimic. I too purchased the turkey whisle and have since thrown it into the flint river. But I have also slammed a truck door and made a turkey gobble too but there is no locator calls that have been invented to imitate this call. Turkey and deer are two different animals and use different statagies to hunt them. Stick with what you know works. If you purchase a call and use it properly it may work and it may not work. Videos are great preperation tools that I use to prepare myself for the season comming up. You will and can learn technics from videos but not all work in your area. Calls can and will be used the same way. Some work and some don't. I am sticking to what I know works. Look at the bow hunting industry. 20 years ago I shot a Browning Deluxe Nomad that would thow a 2117 arrow with a 125 grain broadhead at maybe 200 feet per second. But every year these bow industies come out with something newer and faster and better. Have the deer changed because we shoot faster bows? No, they are the same ones that were there 20 years ago. But they too pass on knowledge that they observe and use everyday to survive in the wild. I could still take that same bow I used 20 years ago and kill a deer today. But I don't. Does anyone here still use the woodland camo? Some do but some have to have the latest and best thing on the market. What did you use before Realtree and Mossy Oak came out? Would you use the same thing today? Those that say yes are the ones that stick with what they know works for them. Some say these people have changed hunting and make money off of consumers everyday, so do Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge and any other auto company. Every year they come out with something better. Do you go out and buy a new car or truck every year? Some do and some don't. I don't see many people on here that have a 20 or 30 year old computers. If so by the time they could respond to these threads they are old and something new is the topic of discussion. Use what you know works and if you want something new go get it and try it. Everyone of us do but just don't realize it. Good luck. Tim
 

marathon

Senior Member
tearbritches said:
great post ,tim.


I agree. :clap:

I too have the Knight & Hale E Z Grunter and now realize in hindsight what he means about the varying sounds under different circumstances. Sometimes you don't realize things at the time until someone else points it out to you later on. Again good post!!
 

high tech. hunter

Senior Member
Buck Grunter call may already be one upped

Wow, 54 responses! I am reminded of a quote from the Shakespear play McBeth..."thou think thou protest too much my dear..." I will have my field test report on line by mid November.:bounce:

I just opened my August Georgia Sportsman magazine and what do I see on page 14?? New Products...............
New e-deer call from Primos. ".... the e-deer call should be set up where you need the deer to go and can be operated from 60 yards away. Using digital sound, the speaker can produce a natural-sounding call without drawing attention to the hunter's position." www.primos.com I'll put mine in the bed of my truck, since that's where I "need the deer to go." You can't miss the ad, it's near the Cialis, Viagra and Maxoderm ads. :love:
But seriously, on page 24 there is a story and pictures of 2 good bucks taken in Crisp County Georgia a 125+ and a 136+
 

marathon

Senior Member
high tech. hunter said:
Wow, 54 responses! I am reminded of a quote from the Shakespear play McBeth..."thou think thou protest too much my dear..." I will have my field test report on line by mid November.:bounce:

I just opened my August Georgia Sportsman magazine and what do I see on page 14?? New Products...............
New e-deer call from Primos. ".... the e-deer call should be set up where you need the deer to go and can be operated from 60 yards away. Using digital sound, the speaker can produce a natural-sounding call without drawing attention to the hunter's position." www.primos.com I'll put mine in the bed of my truck, since that's where I "need the deer to go." You can't miss the ad, it's near the Cialis, Viagra and Maxoderm ads. :love:
But seriously, on page 24 there is a story and pictures of 2 good bucks taken in Crisp County Georgia a 125+ and a 136+


I'm not trying to instigate or cause an arguement, I'm just posing a question about the e-call. Would that not be considered using electronic device(s) to aid in the pursuit which is outlined to be illegal in the regulations?:huh:
 

high tech. hunter

Senior Member
Your right, I had not thought of that. Must be legal somewhere for Primos to produce and sell it. :huh:
 

short stop

Senior Member
Bunch of folks claim these things growl too . I'll save my money & stick with what works .I'm afraid I might call up big foot
 

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