Georgia Native & Novice Hunter - Looking for Advice on Finding Hunting Opportunities

Hello. I would like to ask for some help from everyone. This post might be long winded and multi-faceted, but I really do appreciate any advice you guys can give. Thanks for your help.

I live in Georgia. I have very limited hunting experience and very little understanding of hunting techniques, skills and principles. I harvested one eight point buck and a few rabbits about 13 years ago. I took a 100+/- pound wild boar with dogs and a knife about four years ago. I disliked the taste of the venison and intensely hated the taste of the boar. I only enjoyed the rabbit meat. I didn’t continue to develop as a hunter because I didn’t enjoy the taste of the meat. I now realize the taste was not helped by my failure to properly care for the game (i.e. not gutting and skinning, not ageing, not being selective in who processed the animals.) In the future, as part of learning about hunting, I also want to learn how to gut, skin, quarter, age and then process the meat myself.

Now, for numerous reasons, I am highly motivated to resume learning how to hunt. I have several young children (6 years of age and under) that I wish to feed high quality protein that is low in fat and free of hormones and various additives. Additionally, I would like to share the outdoors with my children.
But I didn’t grow up in the outdoors and I have never been a “do-it-yourself” person. Without land or money to purchase an expensive lease on quality hunting land, I don’t really feel like I am in a position to get in the woods and teach myself how to hunt. Also, Georgia is very limited in terms of having various types of big game roaming around.

The person who took me to the woods and helped me harvest that 8 point buck is an avid outdoorsman who hunts, traps and fishes. He does all this despite being paralyzed as a teenager. I am very proud of him. He is my oldest friend. He is more than willing to take me back to his property to hunt consistently, and I do intend to hunt with him several times this year. However, he obviously can’t teach me the techniques associated with “spot and stalk” type hunting commonly associated with big game western or northern hunting. I want to eventually be able to do what Steve Rinella does. Have the skill set necessary to draw a moose or elk tag in a western or northern state and be able to drive their, walk onto public land and come out with a huge animal to feed my family. I simply am not in position to go pay 6 to 16 thousand dollars for a guided hunt.

For the past several weeks I have been researching numerous outfitters offering guided hunts all over the country. I have been unsuccessfully seeking a guide who will charge an affordable rate to teach me hunting skills while allowing me to harvest numerous does and/or hogs. I have zero interest in trophies. I don’t have the type of house where I can display them and the idea of paying $6 - $30K to “hunt” a large antlered buck that is practically farm raised and put in a pen just for a trophy seems off putting to me. But I have ran into a surprising lack of professionalism in the outfitter industry. I call, email and text businesses that don’t answer and leave messages to which I don’t always receive a reply. Furthermore, even businesses that actually advertise hunting opportunities for doe animals, commonly termed “meat hunts,” don’t actually have any intention of selling them. They might allow someone to add a “meat animal” doe or two and a hog as a package offering to someone willing to pay $10K for a trophy hunt, but they aren’t going to take someone into the woods to hunt a couple of their advertised $600 red deer hinds or $250+/- fallow, sika, blackbuck does. It is almost as if they see me as a waste of their time.

Add to that the nightmare stories attached to many outfitters involving bait and switch, exaggerated shot opportunities, and various other outright lies, and I become reticent to drive from Georgia to Texas, Oklahoma, Maine or wherever else for what might be an over priced “canned” hunt, a fruitless hunt with little opportunity for success, or an outright deceptive con job.

I am most interested in hunting a red deer hind, but I would be happy to hunt any does or hogs, rabbits, turkeys, doves etc. for meat for my family. I don’t want anything for free. I am willing to pay what I can afford. I’ve been gifted a crossbow that I am in the process of having reconditioned. I am planning on buying a bow and practicing archery so that I can be in the woods for an extra couple months every year. I am dedicated to working overtime so that I can buy whatever weapons and gear needed to become a true hunter. What I am lacking is an opportunity to go on a guided hunt with someone that will actually show me how to be a hunter, for animals that will fill the freezer for my family, that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. If I am driving 15 hours each way and back, I would rather go on a combo hunt for several animals. Again, the red hind is what I am most excited about hunting because they are much larger than whitetail and I have read they taste far better as well.

I appreciate any guidance, advice or suggestions this community can offer. If someone can’t point me in the right direction of a few hunters offering quality, affordable guide services for meat animals, that would be awesome. Thank you all for reading this long-winded message.
 

treadwell

Senior Member
Hmmmmmm, you did say a mouthful. I would most definitely loose the idea of an outfitted hunt to start with. Most outfitters will help some, but, they have other clients and things to do. Most will want to just put you on a stand and let you hunt there. As far as spot and stalk, I'm 58 yrs old, have killed 8 deer over 140", of which 6 where with a bow. NONE of them where spot and stalk. In Georgia, (I'm not saying it's not possible) stalking up on a whitetail for a beginner is going to be more of a challenge than you may be up to. What I DO recommend is to look through the section on GON forum for "clubs in Ga looking for members" and target those that state they are "family friendly". If you present yourself correctly, most folks in Ga are good enough people that when you chat with the older guys and humble yourself (not saying your arrogant), they will go out of their way to pass on what they know, especially since you want to get your children involved. In addition, it will give you 24/7 access to land and a place to camp with your family. It's a FAR better "bang" for your buck. Again, the right attitude, most have extra gear, i.e. stands, camo, etc they would be glad to loan or give you. In addition, most will take the time to show you how to process your game, and may be willing to share their harvest. Good luck brother.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
My advice, sounds like you got the cart before the horse here. I see you are all amped up to do a western style adventure stalk where you "glass" from a ridge and stalk down untill you set up for a shot. Thats fine but you are gonna pay big money for someone to take you. You can hunt like that here in georgia somewhat, but it will take years of experience to get you there. You can join a club and learn how to hunt from a stand and get some help from members on basic hunting. You can also get you a pack and start hiking around the vast acres of public land available in georgia. Learn about animal sign and where to look. Figure out how to set up on an animal and stay down wind. Not sure where you get the idea that georgia has limited big game oppourtunities?? You can harvest 12 deer , 2 bears, and unlimited hogs. Worry about learning how to find the game first.
 

antharper

“Well Rounded Outdoorsman MOD “
Staff member
Great first post by the way , welcome , and u can learn enough reading on here to fill your freezer rt here in Ga !
 

DSGB

Senior Member

Matt.M

Senior Member
Welcome to the addiction!

Georgia has many opportunities for deer. I would focus your immediate time to find a deer lease right now. Family style. You could bring the kiddos if you want, and have members for guidance. AND....year round access not just a week like you would out West.

Thinking about the return on investment for hunting out west to going to be much higher than hunting in GA. Gas, out of state licenses, lodging, guide fees, processing costs, etc are really going to bite into the hunting funds.

And, the out west stalking videos you see, they put stalks on 20 animals and maybe 1 pans out. If you wanted to learn to do that, I would focus on stalking wild hogs here.
 

Horns

Senior Member
There’s a bunch of different topics in your post. As far as processing game, there are numerous videos on You Tube. The idea of spot and stalk is a learned skill. Just think of it as this way, you can never be too slow walking through the woods
 

krizia829

Senior Member
Welcome to the best addiction anyone can have! I think it's great that you want to put in whatever work you need to do based on your budget in order to feed your family. Unfortunately, we don't live in GA (Yet!). If we did, I'm sure my husband wouldn't mind taking you out there to learn the ropes. Hunting is not easy, specially on a budget! Hence why it's called hunting and not killing.
The first thing I recommend, forget about outfitters. They won't teach you anything.. They do all the work to get you straight to the animal where all you gotta do is shoot and pay. Sure they may show you how to skin the animal, but you're honestly not going to learn what you want or expect to learn.
Spot and stalk is not easy to do. Many people learn on their own by just going out there and seeing what it takes to get close to the animal. Is it their scent pushing the animal away? Is it the wind? Was it too much noise from the ground terrain or the swishing noise from your pants when walking? Are you in their bedding area?
There's so much that is involved with spot and stalk and it will take you a good amount of tries to be successful until you can figure them out. It's definitely not impossible though! It's very fun as well.
I think you should look for a small hunting club that is family oriented who is willing to trade their knowledge for your help working the land. You will learn the most from those people. Many hunters are very welcoming and then there are those who are very arrogant and will not offer any help. Heck, they won't even want you anywhere near the property.
I recommend following a channel on YouTube called "The Hunting Public". I really truly enjoy their videos. They're a group of young guys who hunt public land all over and they rough it out too so it's more realistic than watching a show on the hunting channels where they receive free gear for sponsorship and get invited every year to hunt in properties where the average person will spend a couple thousand dollars to shoot one buck and one doe. The guys in that channel do lots and lots of spot and stalk and scouting and you will learn by just watching and applying what you saw when you go out there. Sometimes you may have to suck it up and go alone.. It sucks like that but some do it just like that and have become very successful.
Apply for quota hunts and give those a try or hunt public land areas too. You may come across some nice folks willing to help.
Anyways, good luck and I hope you are able to find someone willing to share their time and knowledge with you to support your family! Check out the GON Outdoor blast that is next weekend in Atlanta. My husband and I are heading up from South FL with our daughter. You will meet many great people there. You can ask about products and how they work and you'd be surprised the amount of things you can get out of it!
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist

Mark K

Banned
Wow. Good first post.
Now, what’s a red hind? And if that’s some animal in some other country then you have a lot more money than me.
 

C.Killmaster

Georgia Deer Biologist
Wow. Good first post.
Now, what’s a red hind? And if that’s some animal in some other country then you have a lot more money than me.

Hind is the term for a female red deer and several other European and Asian species of deer. There are some permitted facilities that farm them in Georgia, but they cannot be legally hunted here.
 

LonePine

Senior Member
Pretty much the only opportunities in the US for a Red Deer are guided, high fenced operations outside of GA since it is a non-native, exotic species. Since it sounds like you want to stay away from that type of hunting, not sure that species is a viable option for you. Experience is the best teacher. Trying and failing teaches you what works and what doesn't. I'd pick one of the large N. Ga WMA's. You can hike for hours looking for sign, stopping at the tops of ridges to glass, etc. Not a true comparison to a western style hunt but probably the closest and cheapest option that you have.
 
Pretty much the only opportunities in the US for a Red Deer are guided, high fenced operations outside of GA since it is a non-native, exotic species. Since it sounds like you want to stay away from that type of hunting, not sure that species is a viable option for you. Experience is the best teacher. Trying and failing teaches you what works and what doesn't. I'd pick one of the large N. Ga WMA's. You can hike for hours looking for sign, stopping at the tops of ridges to glass, etc. Not a true comparison to a western style hunt but probably the closest and cheapest option that you have.

That seems like very good advice. Thank you. I have never really been good about teaching myself by doing things, but I suppose that is really going to be required in order to develop to the type of hunter I want to someday be. No better teacher than experience, I suppose. Thank you again.

Quick question: I had to go into the woods about 6 or 7 times on 3 different privately leased properties before I ever saw a single deer (the 8-PT Buck I mentioned in post.) How many trips would be necessary on average when hunting a WMA before getting a good shot opportunity?
 
Hind is the term for a female red deer and several other European and Asian species of deer. There are some permitted facilities that farm them in Georgia, but they cannot be legally hunted here.

People hunt them in many states outside of Georgia. But because they are exotic (most commonly New Zealand) they have to be hi fenced type hunts. They are about 3 times the size of a whitetail deer and for trophy hunters (which I am not, presently) they make a far more impressive trophy than almost any other. Reportedly, they were only hunted by royalty in times past.

Also, they are said to be far better tasting than whitetail.
 

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Wow. Good first post.
Now, what’s a red hind? And if that’s some animal in some other country then you have a lot more money than me.

People hunt them in many states outside of Georgia. But because they are exotic (most commonly New Zealand) they have to be hi fenced type hunts. They are about 3 times the size of a whitetail deer and for trophy hunters (which I am not, presently) they make a far more impressive trophy than almost any other. Reportedly, they were only hunted by royalty in times past.

Also, they are said to be far better tasting than whitetail.
 

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The following programs are designed specifically for new hunters like you, this is the best route to really learn how to hunt and learn where to hunt.

Georgia Wildlife Resources Division Hunt and Learn programs:
https://georgiawildlife.com/LearntoHuntFish

Georgia Field to Fork programs, a collaboration between GWF, QDMA, GA DNR-WRD, SCI, and NWTF:
http://www.gwf.org/r3/
https://www.qdma.com/field-fork-helps-locavores-become-hunters/

Thank you so much for this. This information will be very helpful to me. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
 
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