The Antechaotic Age Gen. 1:1-2

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The Earth Made Perfect The First Time

The original creations of God include the heavens and the Earth and all things therein as first brought into being. Thies period is summed up in Gen. 1:1 thus: "In the beginning God created the heaven [Hebrew, heavens] and the Earth." This refers to the dateless past, and takes in only part of the creative ages, as THE CREATIVE AGES of (Gen. 1:1-2:25). by this meaning the ages in the dateless past, during which time God created the universe and all things therein, called in Gen. 2:4, "the generations of the heavens and of the earth." During these creative ages, God brought into existence the vast heavens including the sun, moon, stars, and planets of our universe, as well as the innumerable things in the three heavens and the Earth, mentioned in Scripture (2 Cor. 12:2; Col. 1:15-18; Rom. 1:20). God also created the various kinds of spirits and HUMAN BEINGS to inhabit the various planets, and to whom He planned to reveal Himself and show the riches of His glory and kindness forever.
From the beginning of creation until the chaotic period of Gen. 1:2 when the Earth and its first inhabitants were destroyed by the first flood. There are many other passages in Scripture that refer to this period (Job. 38; Ps. 8:3-8; 19:1-6; Prov. 8:22-31; 1 Jn. 1:3, 10; Acts 17:24-26; Col. 1:15-18; Heb. 1:1-12; 11:3; Rev. 4:11).

The Eternal past Of God

Just what God did in the eternal dateless past no one knows, for He has not seen fit to reveal His activities from all eternity (Deut. 29:29). All we know is that God existed from all eternity, and that sometime in the dateless past God brought into existence the heavens and the Earth and all things that were originally made therein. The present things that are on Earth were brought into existence in six days AFTER the destruction of the first creation of FREE MORAL AGENTS THAT LIVED ON EARTH (Gen. 1:3-2:25).

That God existed from all eternity is very clear in Scripture: "Before the mountains, were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting, thou art God" (Ps. 90:2); "Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting" (Ps. 93:2; Prov. 8:22-31; Micah 5:2; Heb. 9:14; Jn. 1:1-3; Rev. 1:4-8; 22:5, 13).

 

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Just what God did in the eternal dateless past no one knows ...

... so let's start a thread about it!

 

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That God created the heavens and the Earth and all original creations in them sometime in the eternal past is also clear: "In the beginning," whenever that was, and as there is no date for the beginning is simply adding to the Bible, and therefore, If God wanted us to know when the beginning was, He would have told us. It could have been millions and billions of years ago, or it could have a shorter period in the past. If geologists can prove the age of the Earth to be as old as they claim it is, why disagree with them. If they are right they are right, and if they are wrong they are wrong. Either way it could not contradict the Bible, as it does not set any time element to connection with the original creation of the heavens and Earth.
One thing is certain, according to Scripture, and that is the Earth is more than 6,000 years old, and there were inhabitants on the Earth before the days of Adam. It must be kept in mind that the heavens and the Earth were created in the dateless past as in Gen.1:1, and that the Earth was cursed and flooded because of sin as in Gen.1:2 before the sin days of re-recreation as in Gen. 1:3-2:25. Lucifer was already a fallen creature when he came into Adam's Eden. He had already ruled the Earth and had rebelled, and caused the first flood on the Earth before Adam was created.
Another thing that is certain, God made the heavens and the Earth and all things therein, before He began to bring then into existence. Then, too, it is also certain that God brought them into existence, and that they are not a product of evolution as taught by many men in their opposition to the Bible. The Bible begins with "God" as the creator of all things, and ends with "God" reigning over all things after rebellion against His moral government has been put down (Gen. 1:1; 1 Cor. 15:24-28; Eph. 1:10; Phil. 2:9-11; Rev. 21-22).

 

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The Dispensation of God from Eternity through Eternity (Eph. 3:11).

It could be profitable to study eternity to eternity that one could gain, and one could begin to rightly divide the Word of Truth by associating the various Scriptures with the proper periods, or ages and dispensations.

God in the eternal past (Ps. 90:2; 93:2; Mic. 5:2; Heb. 9:14).
The drafting of God's plan (Heb. 1:3; 11:3; Eph. 3:11; 1 Pet. 1:20).
Creation of the heavens, including the sun, moon, and stars (Gen. 1:1; Col. 1:15-18; Ps. 8:3; 90:2; 95:5; 102:25; Isa. 40:12, 26; 45:12; 48:13).
Creation of the spirit-world (Job 38:4-7; Col. 1:15-18).
Creation of the Earth. The Earth made perfect the first time (Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7; Isa. 45:18; Heb. 11:3).
Creation of "the world [kosmos, social order] that then was" (2 Pet. 3:5-9; Isa. 14: 12-14; 45:18; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17).

 

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Lucifer's reign over "the world that then was" (Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17; Col. 1;15-18). The length of his rule is unknown.
Other thrones, dominions, principalities and powers placed over other parts of the universe (Col. 1:15-18; Eph. 1:21; 3:10; 1 Pet. 3:22).
The Kingdom of God universal; God the Supreme Moral Governor of the universe, and all in harmony with Him (Job 38; Dan. 4:17; 25, 32, 35). The length of the rule of the universal harmonious kingdom before Lucifer started his rebellion is unknown.
Lucifer, the original ruler of the planet Earth, conceives the idea that he can get the co-operation of other angelic beings of the universe, dethrone God, and become the exalted supreme ruler of the universe (Isa. 14:12-14; Ezek. 28:11-17; 1 Tim. 3:6).
Lucifer carries out his plans, and through pride falls and foments rebellion by slander and accusations against the Almighty. He causes his own earth-kingdom subjects and over one-third of God's angels (Rev. 12:7-12) to rebel against Him. The Earth enters its first sinful career (Isa. 14:12-14; Ezek. 28:11-17; 1 Tim. 3:6). the length of the uprising is unknown.
Lucifer instigates rebellion and persuades everyone possible to rebel. He openly breaks relations with God and His government and leads his rebels from the appointed place of mobilization on Earth into Heaven to dethrone God; But he is met by Michael and the faithful angels, and is defeated and cast as lighting back to the Earth (Isa. 14:12-14; Ezek. 28:11-17; Lk. 10:18).

 

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God completely destroys Lucifers kingdom on Earth, and curses the Earth by destroying every bird, animal, fish, city, inhabitant, and all vegetation. He then turns the Earth upside down by means of a great flood makes it empty and a waste (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 104:5-9; Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17; 2 Pet. 3:5-9). The length of the pre-Adamite flood on the Earth is unknown.
The Spirit of God begins to move upon the flooded Earth and in the darkness which covered the waters to restore the Earth to a habitable state, and to create new land animals, fish, fowls, vegetation, and Adam as the new ruler of the Earth (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 104:6-9). Length of the re-creation is six days (Gen. 1:3-2:25; Ex. 20:8-11; 31:15).
The Earth is made perfect a second time and all things in the universe are again in harmony with God as before Lucifer's rebellion; except Lucifer and his spirit rebels are still at large in the heavenlies to further God's plan in the probationary periods of the human race should man fall (Gen. 1:3-3:25; Eph. 2:1-3; 6:10-18; Job 1:6; 2:1; Rev. 12:7-12).

 

[Artfuldodger]

The Antechaotic Age sounds interesting. Also, I've believe there were inhabitants on the Earth before the days of Adam.
Humans on other planets? Not sure. Jesus did say he had other flocks to attend.

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THE FIRST PROBATIONARY PERIOD-THE DISPENSATION OF INNOCENCE.
The length of this period was about six days. (Gen 2:17-3:24).
Lucifer (now the devil or adversary of God and man called Satan) enters the restored Earth, tempts man and causes his fall, thus regaining dominion of the Earth and all things therein (Gen. 3; Lk. 4; Jn. 12:31; 2 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 11:15; 20:1-10).
Rebellion starts again on the Earth by the second ruler of Earth. Man is judged, the Earth is again cursed and enters its second sinful career, and all creatures are brought under the bondage of sin and corruption (Gen. 3 Rom. 5:12-21; 8:19-23).
"The heavens and the earth which are now" since the restoration work of the six days, and since the new curse on the Earth await the time of the second renovation, and the third perfect state of the Earth, called the New Heavens and the New Earth (2 Pet. 3:5-13; Rom. 8:19-23; Heb. 1:10-12; 12:24-28; Rev. 21-22).

 

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THE SECOND PROBATIONARY PERIOD
The Dispensation of Conscience (Gen. 3:1-8:14). The length of this period was 1,656 years (Gen. 5:1-29; 7:11).

 

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THE THIRD PROBATIONARY PERIOD The Dispensation of Human Government (Gen. 8:15-11:9). The length of this period was 427 years (Gen. 11:10-12:9).

 

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THE FOURTH PROBATIONARY PERIOD
The dispensation of promise (Gen. 11:10-Ex. 12:51). The length of this period was 430 years (Ex. 12:40; Gal. 4:30).

 

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THE FIFTH PROBATIONARY PERIOD
The dispensation of law (Ex. 13:1; Mt. 4:1; 11:11; Lk. 16:16). The length of this period was over 1,718 years from Noses to Christ.

 

[BassMan31]

The Antechaotic Age sounds interesting. Also, I've believe there were inhabitants on the Earth before the days of Adam.
Humans on other planets? Not sure. Jesus did say he had other flocks to attend.

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yes. mars and sumi-ur (spelling ?). i'm still studying on this.

 

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THE SIXTH PROBATIONARY PERIOD

The Dispensation of Grace (Jn. 1:17; Matt. 4:1-Rev. 19:21). The length of this period will be from the first advent to the second advent of Christ, and the binding of Satan in the abyss at the end of this age. It has already lasted 1,948 years.

 

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THE SEVETH PROBATIONARY PERIOD

The dispensation of Divine Government or Millennium (Rev. 20:1-10). The length will be 1,000 years (Rev. 20. 1-10).

 

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At the end of the Millennium Satan will be loosed from the abyss to deceive the nations on the Earth; then will come the last rebellion on the Earth, and the destruction of all human rebels (Rev. 20:7-10).
The second resurrection and final judgment at the end of the Millennium (Rev. 20:11-15).
The end of the Earthe's second sinful career by the renovation of the immediate heavens and the Earth and the removal of the all the curse and its effects (2 Pet. 3:10-13; Rom. 8:19-23; Heb. 1:10-12; 12:24-28).
The confinement of all spirit and human rebels of all ages in the lake of fire forever (Mt. 25:41, 46; Rev. 14:9-11; 20:10-15; Isa. 66:22-24).
The New Heavens and the New Earth--the eternal perfect state with God all-in-all again, as before rebellion started in the universe with Lucifer and Adam (1 Cor. 15:24-28). The Earth will be made perfect the third time (Isa. 65:17; 66:22-24; 2 Pet. 3:13; Rev. 21-22).

 

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Creation of the Material Universe Gen. 1:1

By the creation of the material universe meaning the creation of the heavens and Earth, and all things originally created therein. The heavens were created first, then the Earth as proved in Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7.

The word beginning, as seen refers to the dateless past when there was as yet no material universe, or the heavens and the Earth could not be spoken of as being created or brought into existence at that time. There were as yet no day and night, and no time on Earth or in Heaven for they were not yet created. Whether there was day and night or times and seasons where God lived before that, is not stated.

 

[BassMan31]

Creation of the Material Universe Gen. 1:1

By the creation of the material universe meaning the creation of the heavens and Earth, and all things originally created therein. The heavens were created first, then the Earth as proved in Gen. 1:1; Job 38:4-7.

The word beginning, as seen refers to the dateless past when there was as yet no material universe, or the heavens and the Earth could not be spoken of as being created or brought into existence at that time. There were as yet no day and night, and no time on Earth or in Heaven for they were not yet created. Whether there was day and night or times and seasons where God lived before that, is not stated.

it means "made desolate." the earth was formless and "made desolate" and God brought forth order. genesis 1:1 doesn't describe the ultimate beginning, but a recreation of something that was already. it's describing a chaotic beginning on which God 'restored' order. it's also why Adam and Eve were commanded to "replenish." The earth had been there.

 

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The word created is from the Hebrew word bara meaning to create, to make new or bring into existence without the use of pre-existing material. This latter idea is certainly true of the materials out of which the heavens and the Earth were formed. In Heb. 11:3 we read that the "things which are seen [the visible things] were not made of things that do appear" or that were visible. If the heavens and the Earth were brought into existence, then it is certain that at one time they were not in existence. Bara is found forty-nine times in the Hebrew Bible and is translated createth one time. The primary idea is to bring into existence something new, even if the something new is to be made out of already existing material. Perfection is generally implied, and is always implied when anything is a creation of God. Moses said "His work is perfect" Deut. 32:4 and David said, " His ways is perfect" 2 Sam. 22:31. Solomon said that God "made everything beautiful in his time" Eccl. 3:11. In fact, a perfect God could not make anything imperfect.

 

[gordon 2]

I was reading the other day about how in the Ancient Egyptian Creation narrative that a large part of getting to the created world as we know it, so prior to it, was explained. It explained that our existence and knowledge of the world was due that when God created the chaotic age, he also created "an agent of confusion" along with it to combat the age, whereby it was that the agent of confusion forced chaos to settle down, was able to confuse chaos itself sufficient and so eventually that with time Chaos was able to take forms and provide for forms to take shape in both our physical and spiritual world.

And so presently and to our antichaotic age the task is to prove that the "agent of confusion" though beneficial to our creation initially is no longer relevant and that a now settled chaos is possible without it. (It was not meant as a permanent item of creation though essentially introduced at the very begin. ) And so that's where we're at and why the spirit of confusion existed when Eve made a grab for the ancient and poisoned apple.