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Artfuldodger

Senior Member
Colbert Sturgeon, who was featured in the National Geographic TV series “Live Free or Die,” is one of the experts on hand for the 2018 Georgia Bushcraft Spring Gathering on March 23-25. “I'm going to teach classes, sign autographs and demonstrate some things,”

Colbert is far from a hermit, though. He has a folksy, friendly personality and said he regularly travels into town to “harass people.”

Just in some folks nature to share. I'm good with what ever nature one has.
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
This idea that our ancestor homesteaders were isolated people is a myth. They socialized as much as possible (but not as much as today) for news, trade, and religious reasons. There were get togethers for barn raisings, house building, pretty much anything you could think of. They went to church together, visited each other when they were sick, looked after each others children, helped each other with crops, swapped cattle for breeding, etc.
That makes good sense and I never thought they didn’t socialize. The pay per click money would be like before the barn raising, acme lumber would hold up signs and then Marlboro would sing a jingle to the barn builders in return for the money to build the barn.

To me a self reliant person living off the grid would want nothing to do with commercialization. Therefore a commercial video that makes money on advertising is the devil.

I watch Hickok 45 and a few others so I agree, nothing wrong with it. I just contend the real deals are not making videos of it.

If you telling me it makes sense that a homesteader would capitalize on what ever tools are out there, that would make sense if your ok with a compound bow showing up to frontier days.
 
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The Original Rooster

Mayor of Spring Hill
That makes good sense and I never thought they didn’t socialize. The pay per click money would be like before the barn raising, acme lumber would hold up signs and then Marlboro would sing a jingle to the barn builders in return for the money to build the barn.

To me a self reliant person living off the grid would want nothing to do with commercialization. Therefore a commercial video that makes money on advertising is the devil.

I watch Hickok 45 and a few others so I agree, nothing wrong with it. I just contend the real deals are not making videos of it.

If you telling me it makes sense that a homesteader would capitalize on what ever tools are out there, that would make sense if your ok with a compound bow showing up to frontier days.
I'm simply comparing old homesteaders to modern ones and saying that this idea of complete self reliance and self isolation in the past is a myth. How modern homesteaders make their living is up to them.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
That makes good sense and I never thought they didn’t socialize. The pay per click money would be like before the barn raising, acme lumber would hold up signs and then Marlboro would sing a jingle to the barn builders in return for the money to build the barn.

To me a self reliant person living off the grid would want nothing to do with commercialization. Therefore a commercial video that makes money on advertising is the devil.

I watch Hickok 45 and a few others so I agree, nothing wrong with it. I just contend the real deals are not making videos of it.

If you telling me it makes sense that a homesteader would capitalize on what ever tools are out there, that would make sense if your ok with a compound bow showing up to frontier days.
Some of these youtube homesteaders are just using it as a work from home job. Some are using it as a ministry of sorts to try to inspire others to get their own thing going. Then you have the group which has made an industry out of something that is supposed to make you less reliant on the market economy. You can make a product out of anything if you try. To each their own.
 

NCHillbilly

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We recently rode through Cades Cove in the mountains. They were isolated as far as their houses being far apart, but like you said they knew each other and spent a lot of time together.
You didn't see the 5,000 other houses that they tore down when the park service took over. Seriously.
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
That makes good sense and I never thought they didn’t socialize. The pay per click money would be like before the barn raising, acme lumber would hold up signs and then Marlboro would sing a jingle to the barn builders in return for the money to build the barn.

To me a self reliant person living off the grid would want nothing to do with commercialization. Therefore a commercial video that makes money on advertising is the devil.

I watch Hickok 45 and a few others so I agree, nothing wrong with it. I just contend the real deals are not making videos of it.

If you telling me it makes sense that a homesteader would capitalize on what ever tools are out there, that would make sense if your ok with a compound bow showing up to frontier days.
Nobody in the frontier days would have wanted a compound bow. Too complicated, picky, and hard to work on by yourself, and honestly considerably less effective than a stickbow in trained hands.
 

NCHillbilly

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:bounce: Yep, being nosey aint never going out of style. Them old 3 and 4 party lines started alot of gossip. Them ol blue hair women LIVED for it, most of them anyways.
I watched a documentary about a village of those stone-age cannibal people in Papua New Guinea who go around nekkid with just gourds over their nethermost appendages. The government had installed a telephone on the wall of the village townhouse. A feller there was singing a song he wrote about it. It translated to "The telephone goes ring-ring, and all the old women come running! Who was on the telephone, they ask? What did they say?".........:bounce:
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
You didn't see the 5,000 other houses that they tore down when the park service took over. Seriously.
Its kinda funny the places in the east and southeast that seem remote now were at one point clearcut and full of pastures and row crops and farmers. If it was a real good spot there was cherokee or whoever farmin it before that. Its interesting to me how places and people just kinda come and go and nature gets it back in the end.
 

The Original Rooster

Mayor of Spring Hill
Its kinda funny the places in the east and southeast that seem remote now were at one point clearcut and full of pastures and row crops and farmers. If it was a real good spot there was cherokee or whoever farmin it before that. Its interesting to me how places and people just kinda come and go and nature gets it back in the end.
The Piedmont National Wildlife Refuge here in Middle Georgia is a perfect example of that.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
The Piedmont National Wildlife Refuge here in Middle Georgia is a perfect example of that.
Its always neat to think about all the history of a place. I was reminded of Bartram in another post this mornin. In his book he talks about the old spanish settlements he comes across that have been long forgotten. Its interesting to thing about the fact that he was seperated from those places in time about the same amount we are from him.
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
You didn't see the 5,000 other houses that they tore down when the park service took over. Seriously.
Wow! I didn't know it was ever that established. Is Elkmont where the folks from Knoxville had streets and cabins? They got grandfathered in and got to keep them for 50 years after the park was established?

My first time ever going to Cades Cove. I can X that place off my bucket list. I mean it was OK but way over rated for the amount of traffic. The upper Tallulah River Basin is much prettier or any other part of the Smoky Mountains NP.

I haven't been to the Cataloochee side. Is it as crowded as Cades Cove?
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
Wow! I didn't know it was ever that established. Is Elkmont where the folks from Knoxville had streets and cabins? They got grandfathered in and got to keep them for 50 years after the park was established?

My first time ever going to Cades Cove. I can X that place off my bucket list. I mean it was OK but way over rated for the amount of traffic. The upper Tallulah River Basin is much prettier or any other part of the Smoky Mountains NP.

I haven't been to the Cataloochee side. Is it as crowded as Cades Cove?
Yep, that was Elkmont. Still a bunch of those cabins over there. Cades and the whole TN side of the Smokies is very crowded. I wouldn't even really count Cades Cove as being in the Smokies, it's in their foothills. Cataloochee is not nearly as crowded as Cades, but there are a lot more tourist people over there since they turned the elk loose than there used to be.
 
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