Artfuldodger
Senior Member
The topic of the Cross bringing in the Gentiles forced me to look back at how did the concept all begin. Was their future Redeemer going to save them from He11 or from physical bondage, scattering, etc. and a new physical kingdom.
It sounds like they were looking at it more as a physical salvation.
Reading this;
The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept.
Somewhere along the way the Christian mystery/secret was discovered that the coming Messiah would be a King, but also offer salvation from all the sins of those under the Old Covenant which were Jews.
It sounds like they were looking at it more as a physical salvation.
Reading this;
The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept.
Somewhere along the way the Christian mystery/secret was discovered that the coming Messiah would be a King, but also offer salvation from all the sins of those under the Old Covenant which were Jews.