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Rednec

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Saying 'I do': Black marriage campaign is growingShareThisPrint E-mail .By MEGAN K. SCOTT

The Associated Press

NEW YORK — For Kenny and Lynette Seymour, last weekend's black marriage gala was about celebrating their seven-year marriage. They got to meet other black couples while spending a romantic evening together.


Joan Griffith-Lee, left, and her husband Don Lee share a moment as they pose for a photograph Thursday March 25, 2010 at a restaurant in New York. The couple, who live in the Staten Island borough of New York, have been married for 20 years. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)

Joan Griffith-Lee, left, and her husband Don Lee share a moment as they have dinner Thursday March 25, 2010 at a restaurant in New York. The couple, who live in the Staten Island borough of New York, have been married for 20 years. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)

Joan Griffith-Lee, left, and her husband Don Lee have dinner Thursday March 25, 2010 at a restaurant in New York. The couple, who live in the Staten Island borough of New York, have been married for 20 years. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)

."Every time you meet another couple, you learn something new about yourself and relationships in general," said Kenny Seymour, a 39-year-old Broadway music director who lives in Queens. "It was beautiful to be around a bunch of married people in love."

Other black couples will be marking the eighth annual Black Marriage Day this weekend, by attending workshops, black-tie dinners and other activities. Some groups have held events throughout the month, although Black Marriage Day, which celebrates matrimony in the black community, falls on the fourth Sunday in March.

The founder estimates more than 300 celebrations are being held this weekend. The aim is to try to stabilize, if not reverse, the trend of non-commitment within the black community. According to 2009 census figures, 41.9 percent of black adults had never married, compared to 23.6 percent of whites. Studies show blacks also are more likely than other ethnic groups to divorce and bear children out of wedlock.

Experts blame the disparities in part on high black male unemployment, high black male imprisonment and the moderate performance of black men in college compared with black women.

They also note the lack of positive images of black marriage in the media and several misperceptions about matrimony — that it's for white people, that it's a ball and chain, that fatherhood and marriage are not linked.

"They have either seen really bad examples of what marriage looks like or no examples at all," said Yolanda "Yanni" Brown, 42, a divorced mother of two in Chicago, who is hosting black marriage events. "They are saying, 'Why bother? This works for us,' not knowing there are so many other benefits of being married."

Brown says she wishes she had fought for her marriage.

Joseph Arrington II, a 38-year-old black entertainment attorney in Atlanta, said there was a time when he wanted to get married, but his interest has waned. He hasn't had a girlfriend in 15 years. His parents celebrated their 50th anniversary last year. He said he focuses on his work.

"It's a combination of two things," he said. "I haven't found anyone, and I'm not actively seeking someone."

Gerard Abdul, 45, a who lives in East Orange, N.J., and runs an entertainment company, has never seen himself as the marrying type. He has nine children by five women. He said he cared about them all, and each wanted to marry him. But he wasn't interested.

"Because I'm so independent and on my own, I really didn't see the science of marrying them when I really didn't have to," Abdul said.

"I'm a great father," he added. "But I probably would have been a lousy husband."

Despite those attitudes toward marriage, there are a handful of campaigns to get blacks to walk down the aisle, from the federal government's African American Healthy Marriage Initiative to Marry Your Baby Daddy Day, with 10 unwed couples with children tying the knot later this year in New York.

"You Saved Me," a documentary that explores the marriages of eight black couples, will be screened in more than 20 cities this weekend as part of a Black Marriage Day premiere.

"We want people to take away that successful positive (black) marriages do exist," said Lamar Tyler of Waldorf, Md., who produced "You Saved Me" with his wife, Ronnie. The Tylers started their blog "Black and Married With Kids" in 2007 and released "Happily Ever After: A Positive Image of Black Marriage" last year.

Don Lee and his wife, Joan Griffith-Lee, of New York's Staten Island, who have three children, will be watching "Happily Ever After" Friday night and participating in a discussion at a coffeehouse. The couple have been married almost 20 years.

Several of their friends are divorced, and Griffith-Lee, 45, who works at Columbia University, said she and her husband often talk about why.

"We hope to leave there with a new awareness and maybe some tools that can help as we get older," she said.

Black Marriage Day founder Nisa Islam Muhammad is encouraging couples to renew their vows in front of friends and family in honor of Tyler Perry's movie "Why Did I Get Married Too?" which opens April 2.

Muhammad points out that many black children come from single-parent households and contends that the media are not helping. There's never been a black "Bachelor" on the popular TV show, and the star of the 2008 movie "27 Dresses," about a 27-time bridesmaid, was white.

"We're going to focus on the positives," said Muhammad, executive director of Wedded Bliss Foundation, which helps people develop healthy relationships and marriages. "We're going to show ourselves and our community that marriage does matter and we have some fabulous marriages in our community worth celebrating."

Those include the marriage of President Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, said Roland Warren, president of the National Fatherhood Initiative in Germantown, Md. He credits the couple with setting a positive example and creating more discussion about the issue. In a way, their marriage is evidence of the importance of marriage in the African-American community, he said.

Most blacks already think that marriage is a good thing, said Andrew Cherlin, a professor of sociology and public policy at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. But many can't find anyone they think would make a good spouse.

But at least Black Marriage Day will get people thinking about marriage, says Tammy Greer Brown, 43, executive director of Celebrating Real Family Life and organizer of the Staten Island event, who said she hopes to spark a discussion about marriage. She said she grew up in a single-parent home and didn't want that for her kids. She has been married for more than 10 years.

"My daughter is already talking about getting married," she said. "She wants to be like my husband and I."

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March 26, 2010 05:26 PM EDT

Copyright 2010, The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 

turtlebug

Senior Member
Saying 'I do': Black marriage campaign is growingShareThisPrint E-mail .By MEGAN K. SCOTT

The Associated Press

NEW YORK — For Kenny and Lynette Seymour, last weekend's black marriage gala was about celebrating their seven-year marriage. They got to meet other black couples while spending a romantic evening together.


Joan Griffith-Lee, left, and her husband Don Lee share a moment as they pose for a photograph Thursday March 25, 2010 at a restaurant in New York. The couple, who live in the Staten Island borough of New York, have been married for 20 years. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)

Joan Griffith-Lee, left, and her husband Don Lee share a moment as they have dinner Thursday March 25, 2010 at a restaurant in New York. The couple, who live in the Staten Island borough of New York, have been married for 20 years. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)

Joan Griffith-Lee, left, and her husband Don Lee have dinner Thursday March 25, 2010 at a restaurant in New York. The couple, who live in the Staten Island borough of New York, have been married for 20 years. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)

."Every time you meet another couple, you learn something new about yourself and relationships in general," said Kenny Seymour, a 39-year-old Broadway music director who lives in Queens. "It was beautiful to be around a bunch of married people in love."

Other black couples will be marking the eighth annual Black Marriage Day this weekend, by attending workshops, black-tie dinners and other activities. Some groups have held events throughout the month, although Black Marriage Day, which celebrates matrimony in the black community, falls on the fourth Sunday in March.

The founder estimates more than 300 celebrations are being held this weekend. The aim is to try to stabilize, if not reverse, the trend of non-commitment within the black community. According to 2009 census figures, 41.9 percent of black adults had never married, compared to 23.6 percent of whites. Studies show blacks also are more likely than other ethnic groups to divorce and bear children out of wedlock.

Experts blame the disparities in part on high black male unemployment, high black male imprisonment and the moderate performance of black men in college compared with black women.

They also note the lack of positive images of black marriage in the media and several misperceptions about matrimony — that it's for white people, that it's a ball and chain, that fatherhood and marriage are not linked.

"They have either seen really bad examples of what marriage looks like or no examples at all," said Yolanda "Yanni" Brown, 42, a divorced mother of two in Chicago, who is hosting black marriage events. "They are saying, 'Why bother? This works for us,' not knowing there are so many other benefits of being married."

Brown says she wishes she had fought for her marriage.

Joseph Arrington II, a 38-year-old black entertainment attorney in Atlanta, said there was a time when he wanted to get married, but his interest has waned. He hasn't had a girlfriend in 15 years. His parents celebrated their 50th anniversary last year. He said he focuses on his work.

"It's a combination of two things," he said. "I haven't found anyone, and I'm not actively seeking someone."

Gerard Abdul, 45, a who lives in East Orange, N.J., and runs an entertainment company, has never seen himself as the marrying type. He has nine children by five women. He said he cared about them all, and each wanted to marry him. But he wasn't interested.

"Because I'm so independent and on my own, I really didn't see the science of marrying them when I really didn't have to," Abdul said.

"I'm a great father," he added. "But I probably would have been a lousy husband."


Despite those attitudes toward marriage, there are a handful of campaigns to get blacks to walk down the aisle, from the federal government's African American Healthy Marriage Initiative to Marry Your Baby Daddy Day, with 10 unwed couples with children tying the knot later this year in New York.

"You Saved Me," a documentary that explores the marriages of eight black couples, will be screened in more than 20 cities this weekend as part of a Black Marriage Day premiere.

"We want people to take away that successful positive (black) marriages do exist," said Lamar Tyler of Waldorf, Md., who produced "You Saved Me" with his wife, Ronnie. The Tylers started their blog "Black and Married With Kids" in 2007 and released "Happily Ever After: A Positive Image of Black Marriage" last year.

Don Lee and his wife, Joan Griffith-Lee, of New York's Staten Island, who have three children, will be watching "Happily Ever After" Friday night and participating in a discussion at a coffeehouse. The couple have been married almost 20 years.

Several of their friends are divorced, and Griffith-Lee, 45, who works at Columbia University, said she and her husband often talk about why.

"We hope to leave there with a new awareness and maybe some tools that can help as we get older," she said.

Black Marriage Day founder Nisa Islam Muhammad is encouraging couples to renew their vows in front of friends and family in honor of Tyler Perry's movie "Why Did I Get Married Too?" which opens April 2.

Muhammad points out that many black children come from single-parent households and contends that the media are not helping. There's never been a black "Bachelor" on the popular TV show, and the star of the 2008 movie "27 Dresses," about a 27-time bridesmaid, was white.

"We're going to focus on the positives," said Muhammad, executive director of Wedded Bliss Foundation, which helps people develop healthy relationships and marriages. "We're going to show ourselves and our community that marriage does matter and we have some fabulous marriages in our community worth celebrating."

Those include the marriage of President Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, said Roland Warren, president of the National Fatherhood Initiative in Germantown, Md. He credits the couple with setting a positive example and creating more discussion about the issue. In a way, their marriage is evidence of the importance of marriage in the African-American community, he said.

Most blacks already think that marriage is a good thing, said Andrew Cherlin, a professor of sociology and public policy at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. But many can't find anyone they think would make a good spouse.

But at least Black Marriage Day will get people thinking about marriage, says Tammy Greer Brown, 43, executive director of Celebrating Real Family Life and organizer of the Staten Island event, who said she hopes to spark a discussion about marriage. She said she grew up in a single-parent home and didn't want that for her kids. She has been married for more than 10 years.

"My daughter is already talking about getting married," she said. "She wants to be like my husband and I."

___

March 26, 2010 05:26 PM EDT

Copyright 2010, The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


Would love to see how much time he spends with each child and what percentage of monetary support this "great father" provides for all nine children along with how many of the mothers receive public assistance and how much. :rolleyes:


I should probably hush at this point. :)
 

Randy

Senior Member
Yea, well "great fathers" don't have illegitimate children.

Do I believe that every race should have this? Well I don't think it is necessary nor do I see anything wrong with it but some races could really benefit from this.
 

swamp hunter

Senior Member
YEP,... Some Races could really Benfit from this . Really ...... Really ......BENFIT FROM THIS.
Might save us lot,s of Tax Dollars in a Hundred Years.
Bout Time, I,d say.
 

Cadcom

Senior Member
Who cares.

I got over this kind of stuff when I figured out there was never going to be a commercial for the "Give to the United Anglo Saxon college fund".
I mean really - the "Media" is the problem here?
 

Rednec

Banned
If enough Anglos raised heck about it, it could happen, but, too many of us either have "white guilt" or afraid of being called racist.
 

drippin' rock

Senior Member
I believe the roots of this issue go too deep to just will it away. While I think this particular minority needs a good dose of "get the heck over it", I believe the lack of commitment "gene" can be traced back to slavery. Black men were used as studs and were regularly torn away from their families. They have never learned otherwise. The matter was complicated even further when the Government stepped in and started handing out money. Predjudice and ignorance from all sides have stoked these fires, and they won't be put out any time soon.

But... I am also tired of the neverending sense of entitlement we see. Every race has been a slave to another at some point in our history. Blacks had the fortune of being slaves when public opinion was turning. I say fortune, because while their history is a hard one, they are in the greatest country on the planet, with a government that bends over backwards to appease them.
 
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jmar28

Senior Member
If you think that every race should have one, then start one up.

It just gets old hearing us say things like, "we need to do something about this" or
"What if we had our own network television channel like BET" we do it's called CMT :bounce:
Or "What if we had a white history month" we do its called January, March - December:bounce:


No offense to people on here, but my whole thing is if you want what they have then go out and do something to get it.

My.02, let the jmar28 bashing begin :bounce:
 

Rednec

Banned
jmar,
Theres no way anything like this could get off the ground with out being label racist. The papers & politicians would jump all over it like white on rice. If you dont believe that you dont have any credibility with me.

CMT has plenty monorities in the videos.
Whites are disproportionatley portrayed on TV as the bad guys if you consider how many crimes are commited by non whites. Heck, 95% of interracial crimes are blacks on whites.

IN 20 yrs the minority population will surpass the white population 205 mil to 204 mil, as reported on CNN, getting from here to there is not gonna be pleasant for many white kids. Maybe then someone can start a program like this as it will certainly be needed, more so.

Yea,,Affirmative action is old too.
Affirmative Action has been going on for almost 40yrs & its well over due to stop! No non white gov employee can honestly say they deserve the job/recognition they have because of AA.

As far as the slaves go, the north & media has betrayed that evil much worse than it was. The yankee government sent out reporters in the 1900's for documentation on slave life. Over 70% of the slaves has postitive comments and many said they were part of the family. These are referred to as the "Slave Narratives"
 

jmar28

Senior Member
Maybe it's just me, but it's only racist if you see it as racist. All i see from this is a bunch of black couples getting together to celebrate marraige, Why would it be racist if white people did it?

If you find it racist of what their doing then I'm sorry, I don't. Just like I would imagine if there was a bunch of white folks getting together to celebrate marriage, i don't think blacks would think its racist either. Well maybe some would, but in their eyes race is still an important issue, to me it's not and it's not to my white and black and brown friends either. We have other things to worry about in this time of our country than the skin color.
 

Rednec

Banned
It wouldnt be racist but it would be percieved by media & politicians.
Any activity that doesnt include non whites is racist in the world of PC.

Sure we have obamas HC to worry about paying for, but, if we only talked about HC/war/illegals/etc...This forum wouldnt exist.
 

jmar28

Senior Member
It wouldnt be racist but it would be percieved by media & politicians.
Any activity that doesnt include non whites is racist in the world of PC.

Sure we have obamas HC to worry about paying for, but, if we only talked about HC/war/illegals/etc...This forum wouldnt exist.

I am not sure I am following you.........

What are you saying, does HC mean Health Care? What does that have to do with with this thread?
 

mickbear

Senior Member
nothing will ever change because the white people of this country are scared of being labeled a raciest.you have a few who talk a big game but when it comes time to show up,well thats a different story.i'v been sitting back watching these forums and all the talk for years.i'v never seen any action what so ever.i dont expect to see any in the future either.everybody put your binders back on an sing real loud and maybe when you open your eyes it will have gone away.
 

jmar28

Senior Member
I am not sure I am following you.........

What are you saying, does HC mean Health Care? What does that have to do with with this thread?

Nevermind I just reread it :bounce:

Your right about that,

so why are we worried about black couples getting together and celebrating marriage?
 

jmar28

Senior Member
nothing will ever change because the white people of this country are scared of being labeled a raciest.you have a few who talk a big game but when it comes time to show up,well thats a different story.i'v been sitting back watching these forums and all the talk for years.i'v never seen any action what so ever.i dont expect to see any in the future either.everybody put your binders back on an sing real loud and maybe when you open your eyes it will have gone away.

:rofl:
 

Rednec

Banned
"so why are we worried about black couples getting together and celebrating marriage? "

Im not worried, im glad. whites need this commitment to each other,,but, it cant happen in public & a clandestine movement would be raided by ATF.
 
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