menhadenman
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Bidenomics going strong. Kiss your retirement and kids’ future goodbye.
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Economy is great! Half ton Ram $74k
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sinclair1
Senior Member
84 months @ 11% and she’s all yours. Add the new boat at 120 months @ 14% lol
Dub
Senior Member
And yet, the roads are full of dudes cruising around in brand new trucks.
It is unreal.
I often marvel at what I see in the parking lot at work. It is no mystery why I see the owners working a pile of overtime.
It is unreal.
I often marvel at what I see in the parking lot at work. It is no mystery why I see the owners working a pile of overtime.
Railroader
Billy’s Security Guard.
That's just plain stupid.
earlthegoat2
Senior Member
Maybe get a more basic model?…..for like $65k 
dwhee87
GON Political Forum Scientific Studies Poster
My first house wasn't much more than that.
earlthegoat2
Senior Member
transfixer
Senior Member
The amazing thing to me , beyond the price of course , is people do not do any research on these new vehicles, especially those with new powertrains before they buy. 90% of them will have to go back to the Dealer a half dozen times or more for warranty work in the first couple years, and will likely have costly failures not far outside of warranty ! yet people still buy them ?
sinclair1
Senior Member
55k in 1997. The famous starter home that no longer exist.
People go straight for the gold on the first house and cars now days.
livinoutdoors
Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
People dont care what the final price of anything is now because they are all payment shoppers. Whats the payment? Then of course when nobody actually pays for the thing it drives up prices. You can thank all the people living well beyond their means for this.
Tblank
Senior Member
Our first 2 houses combined wasn’t that much. Crazy.
specialk
Senior Member
you are 100% spot on, and the reason i've never owned a new one....i like'em 4-5 yrs old with all the kinks and gremlins worked out......i dont mind not having that ''new car smell''..............................................or the new car price either...
ryanh487
Senior Member
Trucks are about to get WAY more expensive than that. In the next few years, automakers will have to comply with regulations that state they must produce a certain ratio of electric vehicles to every gas/diesel vehicle, depending on the emissions of the vehicles. It's about 2:1 EV to Truck for a 1/2 ton. EV production isn't anywhere near high enough to accomplish that, so trucks are about to get scarce and even more expensive.
Remember, it's not about the environment. It's about making travel too expensive until the only option for most is renting in cities with public transportation. Just another tightening of the noose. They can't TAKE our cars, so they'll just make them too expensive for anyone to afford.
Remember, it's not about the environment. It's about making travel too expensive until the only option for most is renting in cities with public transportation. Just another tightening of the noose. They can't TAKE our cars, so they'll just make them too expensive for anyone to afford.
livinoutdoors
Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
I wouldnt hold your breath just yet. Even in Europe they are having to walk back some of this all electric stuff.
transfixer
Senior Member
Some of the automakers are already backing off the EV thing, it isn't feasible , realistically or fiscally, these quasi Government agencies pushing this don't have a clue , EV's will ONLY be feasible in cities, for short trips, and the power grid in those cities are YEARS away from being able to support the increase in power required !
It ain't gonna fly , period ! they will however continue to explore small diesel powered vehicles, and small turbo powered vehicles, which while better than EV's , will ultimately not be dependable and will be costly
NE GA Pappy
Mr. Pappy
in 1982 I built my house by myself. I paid someone to lay the blocks for the basement, and to shingle it. I paid another guy to finish the sheetrock while I was laid up in the hospital with a ruptured appendix. Total cost.... 28k
I added on a bigger kitchen and a sunroom in 1992. I also had metal roofing put on it then. That cost another 59K...
Stob
Useles Billy’s Uncle StepDaddy.
Yes and its got them stirred up too. There is currently a $16 per day tax on driving a gas vehicle in London.
transfixer
Senior Member
British people will pay it, they're already subjects of the Crown, not citizens, and of all the various countries of the world, the British will be the very last to revolt against their Government,
Sheep= British people
