Yep, I had one like that many years ago, before he up and moved back home to Kentucky.
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Dr. Strangelove
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My cardiologist is great.
I changed my primary because he barely looked me in the face, read down a list of questions then asked if I needed any refills and sent me on my way. Oh, he did listen my chest and back, which I think is all for show.
I changed my eyedoctor because the old one made me feel like I was walking onto a car lot and upsold at every opportunity.
It's like anything else, if you aren't happy, shop around.
I changed my primary because he barely looked me in the face, read down a list of questions then asked if I needed any refills and sent me on my way. Oh, he did listen my chest and back, which I think is all for show.
I changed my eyedoctor because the old one made me feel like I was walking onto a car lot and upsold at every opportunity.
It's like anything else, if you aren't happy, shop around.
Stroker
Senior Member
They done the same thing to my wife, except she was in the exam room and she and doctor MBV had a disagreement on a herbal supplement my wife was taking, which was helping her. Doc left the room, the PA came in and said we're dismissing you. Got a certified letter next week. Wife called them up, said I'll be there in 15 minutes for my records, they said we'll mail them tomorrow, we have to copy them. She told them they better get with it she was on her way. They met her at the door with her records
WishboneW
Senior Member
There is no care. Only a medical billing practice.
The doctors and NPA anyone seeing US born white boys? Not meaning racism, just that who you seem to see are Middle Eastern, Indian, Chinese, or black.
Those more interested in financials.
The doctors and NPA anyone seeing US born white boys? Not meaning racism, just that who you seem to see are Middle Eastern, Indian, Chinese, or black.
Those more interested in financials.
Jeff C.
Chief Grass Master
It's not just Doctors and/or health Care, but I've noticed it's quite obvious in health care. I've seen it in Retail, Service, etc., etc.,
It seems to me like an overall attitude has gone downhill ever since the Covid Fiasco, with lockdowns, masking, Vaccines, Work from home, etc., etc., became the New Norm. <----I even hate their stinkin terms.
It seems to me like an overall attitude has gone downhill ever since the Covid Fiasco, with lockdowns, masking, Vaccines, Work from home, etc., etc., became the New Norm. <----I even hate their stinkin terms.
Crakajak
Daily Driveler News Team
And insurance companies!!!!!
campboy
Senior Member
Yes. It’s terrible. I could go on but my blood pressure would shoot up
Just curious, are you saying Vineville Medical did it to ya'll too or some other place? (None of my business or anyone else's, so no offense taken if you choose not to answer this question.)
Problem began when managed healthcare organizations came into existence.
The patient was left out of the billing and payment process. When I got my first "hospitalization ins" in the early seventies you went to the doctor, he gave you a bill, you paid it and turned the receipt to the Insurance Clerk who filed the receipt with the insurance carrier.
Then the insurance carrier mailed you a check for the amount payable.
Today the patient is not involved in the process if they have health insurance other than to pay a copay. The Ins. carrieer and the provider do all the negotiating.
If you want a headache try to make heads or tails of a Medicare payment record statement.
The patient was left out of the billing and payment process. When I got my first "hospitalization ins" in the early seventies you went to the doctor, he gave you a bill, you paid it and turned the receipt to the Insurance Clerk who filed the receipt with the insurance carrier.
Then the insurance carrier mailed you a check for the amount payable.
Today the patient is not involved in the process if they have health insurance other than to pay a copay. The Ins. carrieer and the provider do all the negotiating.
If you want a headache try to make heads or tails of a Medicare payment record statement.
Stroker
Senior Member
Yes, to my wife.
earlthegoat2
Senior Member
I think many medical organizations are owned by private equity firms who have investors that demand their quarterly payouts.
Sorry to all the stockholders, venture capitalists, or private investors on here (I am one of them as well) but any entity that is beholden to stakeholders make life miserable for both the end customers and the employees of that company.
With medical care, insurance is involved. Insurance drives up the costs of everything it touches. All insurances for all things they cover. It seems medical and health care are the industries most affected or most exposed.
All it really does is incentivize folks to not seek medical care until things get really bad.
I trust my dentist and my vet more than any MD doctor. I had a sore throat for several months that was never quite bad enough for me to go get checked out. It eventually went away. On my next dental visit I told him about it and he checked my throat and said everything seemed fine.
A family member of mine had a sore on her tongue for awhile. She went to the doctor several times and they did “something” and it never got better. She went to her routine dental visit and they said she needed to get a biopsy done because it looked like cancer. It was. She died 2 years later. Yes a lawsuit was filed and settlements were paid out.
Another friend of mine had a plethora of symptoms that all pointed to a particular disease. Two different doctors said it was nothing and maybe prescribed something. I don’t remember. Eventually he went to an optometry appointment and discussed the symptoms with them as it was affecting his eyes. They were able to make a preliminary diagnosis and refer him to an ophthalmologist who then solved the problem. A Google search of those symptoms immediately brings up the disease.
Sorry to all the stockholders, venture capitalists, or private investors on here (I am one of them as well) but any entity that is beholden to stakeholders make life miserable for both the end customers and the employees of that company.
With medical care, insurance is involved. Insurance drives up the costs of everything it touches. All insurances for all things they cover. It seems medical and health care are the industries most affected or most exposed.
All it really does is incentivize folks to not seek medical care until things get really bad.
I trust my dentist and my vet more than any MD doctor. I had a sore throat for several months that was never quite bad enough for me to go get checked out. It eventually went away. On my next dental visit I told him about it and he checked my throat and said everything seemed fine.
A family member of mine had a sore on her tongue for awhile. She went to the doctor several times and they did “something” and it never got better. She went to her routine dental visit and they said she needed to get a biopsy done because it looked like cancer. It was. She died 2 years later. Yes a lawsuit was filed and settlements were paid out.
Another friend of mine had a plethora of symptoms that all pointed to a particular disease. Two different doctors said it was nothing and maybe prescribed something. I don’t remember. Eventually he went to an optometry appointment and discussed the symptoms with them as it was affecting his eyes. They were able to make a preliminary diagnosis and refer him to an ophthalmologist who then solved the problem. A Google search of those symptoms immediately brings up the disease.
I'm blessed I have good docs and am well taken care of. My cardiologist started me off with monthly visits after I was diagnosed. That has steadily dwindled down an annual visit. See my lung doc every 6 months and my GP for an annual physical. I don’t even go in to my GP sometimes. I send him a message in the portal about my ailment and meds are sent to the pharmacy.
snooker1
Senior Member
Thats what started it for me, after 12 plus years on the same B/P meds I could tell my B/P was starting to creep up. I had an appointment with my cardiologist in a few weeks so I monitored my B/P (as always) and the day before my appointment I got a letter in the mail stating my appointment had been moved out 3 months. I called the cardo office and explained what was going on and advised her I could not wait (3) more months, she said the best she could do was 5 weeks out so I took the appointment. I then called my primary who put me on the meds to begin with and she was to busy to see me or make an appointment but her salutation was for me to "double up" on the medication until I could see my cardo doctor. After a week I could tell it was not working so I went to the cardo office and sat for 3 hours until they could fit me in. As I watched they had new appointments scheduled for every 10 minutes. How do you properly examine someone and find out how they are doing in 10 minutes. Needless to say when I was called back my B/P was 168/100 (I was fired up mad). She gave me a new script and told me to call the office back if I had any issues. I asked for the phone number because the one I had put me into an answering service could never speak to anyone in the office, that's the correct number she said. Needless to say I am looking for a new cardo doctor.
I think a lot depends on the Doctor. I had cancer two years ago , the ones that did the surgery
And all the follow ups were awesome. We became friends and they actually cared for me.
On the other hand, I went to my primary care Dr, about two days after getting released after my surgery and 8 days in the hospital.
I arrived about 30 minutes late because of my condition, and they wouldn’t see me. Said I had to reschedule.
I love to dog him out still, Jonathan Lowman. What kind of Dr would send someone away in the condition I was in, The stress of the operation
Caused a cycle of cluster headaches and all I needed was a prescription. He filled them before, but couldn’t fit me in.
And all the follow ups were awesome. We became friends and they actually cared for me.
On the other hand, I went to my primary care Dr, about two days after getting released after my surgery and 8 days in the hospital.
I arrived about 30 minutes late because of my condition, and they wouldn’t see me. Said I had to reschedule.
I love to dog him out still, Jonathan Lowman. What kind of Dr would send someone away in the condition I was in, The stress of the operation
Caused a cycle of cluster headaches and all I needed was a prescription. He filled them before, but couldn’t fit me in.
oldfella1962
Senior Member
That is a good question! If the government is really enmeshed within the medical/drug industry, IMHO it wouldn't really be true capitalism unless the government component of the mixture was competing with another government.
Then again, I'm not much an economics expert.
oldfella1962
Senior Member
My wife had a doctor do something similar. Her first psychiatrist got rid of all her patients that used insurance.
She (a female psychiatrist from Africa) said it would be cash only, and she would come to the homes of her patients, no office visits. Gee, that's not shady at all! Did she want to pop up on the DEA radar? Because that's how you pop upon the DEA radar! Luckily Tricare found her a really good psychiatrist about three blocks from where the African doctor worked until she started working out of her car or whatever.
oldfella1962
Senior Member
Between my wife and I we have quite a few different types of doctors/specialists, and I would say we have about 15 percent "US born white male" doctors. That said are these "minority"
doctors more interested in the financial gains? Maybe - because they would probably barely eke out a living in their countries of origin. I can't blame them for that. But I would also bet that medical schools have extra financial incentives and/or government mandates to take on minority and especially immigrant minority students. And large medical companies probably get tax breaks and other financial incentives having these doctors under their general umbrella.All I know is that it can be very frustrating understanding them without subtitles.
Another unfortunate fact of life with many doctors is that part of the repayment for the financial aid some have received during school requires them to practice for x amount of time in a county or area designated as "medically under served". So they join a practice or setup their own in such an area, then the top ones immediately leave as soon as their stint is up. Headed back to some metropolitan area where they can join the "big time" ranks among doctors.
That happens a lot within some of the counties in our area.
That happens a lot within some of the counties in our area.
And further to that point, in my experience it seems that more and more over the years many of the doctors who decided they were happy to stay, serve the public's interest, and be satisfied with a mere 500K+ salary were members of what have been traditionally considered "minority" demographics (in the US) over past decades.
Gator89
Senior Member
I have an old school primary doctor. No E-logs, no emails or texts. Paper records and phone calls.
No appointments, he is walk in only. You may wait a while, but you will be seen. He will spend time with you.
The above doc's son is my dermatologist. Also a great doctor, but super organized, in on schedule, out quick, but a quality visit.
Primary doc is definitely conservative, too.
No appointments, he is walk in only. You may wait a while, but you will be seen. He will spend time with you.
The above doc's son is my dermatologist. Also a great doctor, but super organized, in on schedule, out quick, but a quality visit.
Primary doc is definitely conservative, too.
