bullgator
Senior Member
Apologies if this becomes a lengthy ramble of thoughts leading to questions. My disgust in what college football, the only sport I will sit and watch, is turning into had me trying to piece this NIL debacle together. So please help me understand it a correct me where I’m wrong.
As I understand it, NIL is payment to players for name, image, and likeness for services they provide off the football field driven by their accomplishments and popularity of being an on field player. As I understand it, these payments are provided by entities other that the universities themselves and are separate from the universities. As I understand it neither entity (the NIL collective or the university) has control of the other and operate independently of each other. Am I wrong so far?
If the above is accurate so far, then any NIL agreements between the the player and an NIL collective is between them alone and separate from any agreements made with the universities to attend the schools…….as I understand it? This would seem to me that the NIL collective owns the ‘player rights’ of an individual. Furthermore, it seems like the universities are offering education, coaching, lodging, meals, medical, tutoring, training facilities, transportation, and more without the benefits of any commitment to them from the players,……? At this point it seems as though the NIL collectives are much like unions. We all know that players can and do walk away from schools any time they want for any reason they want, so these “COMMITTED” theatrics are just attention getting shows with no substance to them.
So, if NIL collectives do or could operate much like unions, what if they decide to shop the players to other schools collectives. It wouldn’t take much imagination to see a few ways that could happen. A falling out with a school or a change in the leadership of the collective could have them go rogue and be in it for themselves. Also, what if a player isn’t panning out on the field, can an NIL collective ‘fire’ the player and stop paying them if they fall down the depth chart and their NIL loses value? Should the scholarships schools offer be rewritten to reflect the commitment between the school and the individual? It seems like the schools are only signing the student and the collectives are signing the player.
A couple final thoughts. This NIL stuff started with the argument that players were being taken advantage of due to the schools making money at the gates and the sales of merchandise associated with players. So, have the schools had to give up any profits from these income sources? Are the players really doing any NIL stuff equal to the amounts of money they receive? Is a 2nd team OG earning his?
Is NIL working?
As I understand it, NIL is payment to players for name, image, and likeness for services they provide off the football field driven by their accomplishments and popularity of being an on field player. As I understand it, these payments are provided by entities other that the universities themselves and are separate from the universities. As I understand it neither entity (the NIL collective or the university) has control of the other and operate independently of each other. Am I wrong so far?
If the above is accurate so far, then any NIL agreements between the the player and an NIL collective is between them alone and separate from any agreements made with the universities to attend the schools…….as I understand it? This would seem to me that the NIL collective owns the ‘player rights’ of an individual. Furthermore, it seems like the universities are offering education, coaching, lodging, meals, medical, tutoring, training facilities, transportation, and more without the benefits of any commitment to them from the players,……? At this point it seems as though the NIL collectives are much like unions. We all know that players can and do walk away from schools any time they want for any reason they want, so these “COMMITTED” theatrics are just attention getting shows with no substance to them.
So, if NIL collectives do or could operate much like unions, what if they decide to shop the players to other schools collectives. It wouldn’t take much imagination to see a few ways that could happen. A falling out with a school or a change in the leadership of the collective could have them go rogue and be in it for themselves. Also, what if a player isn’t panning out on the field, can an NIL collective ‘fire’ the player and stop paying them if they fall down the depth chart and their NIL loses value? Should the scholarships schools offer be rewritten to reflect the commitment between the school and the individual? It seems like the schools are only signing the student and the collectives are signing the player.
A couple final thoughts. This NIL stuff started with the argument that players were being taken advantage of due to the schools making money at the gates and the sales of merchandise associated with players. So, have the schools had to give up any profits from these income sources? Are the players really doing any NIL stuff equal to the amounts of money they receive? Is a 2nd team OG earning his?
Is NIL working?