Forsyth county ever going QDM?

[livinoutdoors]

If a meat hunter kills a couple of small bucks he is done for the season. Most likely pretty early in most places because small bucks are easier to find. Now all the older mature deer are still alive and running round. If you force that meat hunter to be an antler hunter that means he has to wait and harvest a mature deer or two for meat. Or, he will resort to killing more does which will impact the herd long run.

 

[gma1320]

If a meat hunter kills a couple of small bucks he is done for the season. Most likely pretty early in most places because small bucks are easier to find. Now all the older mature deer are still alive and running round. If you force that meat hunter to be an antler hunter that means he has to wait and harvest a mature deer or two for meat. Or, he will resort to killing more does which will impact the herd long run.

Fact

 

[elfiii]

I’m not desiring more antler restrictions but I have to ask why you say this

Because a lot of deer you would shoot otherwise won't be legal. One of the guys that hunts with me killed an absolute Booner 6 point the year before Troup went 4 points or better. He was easily a 4 year old deer. That deer would have been illegal the next year and every year since.

I've had a hankering to kill young bucks since then for the freezer but the 4 points or better rule has put the kibosh on that.

As a property owner I voted for the antler restriction in Troup. I regret my vote now.

 

[Kev]

Everyone crying about government regulation on deer. Maybe we should just quit having a deer season. Summer deer eat better anyways. Also, I think it’s bull crap we can’t legally shoot them at night. How does the government have the right to tell me I can’t shoot deer at night. It’s just wrong that the government thinks they can tell me when and how I can shoot a deer. Oh yeh, and only 12 deer that’s not enough. It’s not the governments job to tell me how many deer I can shoot.

 

[gma1320]

Because a lot of deer you would shoot otherwise won't be legal. One of the guys that hunts with me killed an absolute Booner 6 point the year before Troup went 4 points or better. He was easily a 4 year old deer. That deer would have been illegal the next year and every year since.

I've had a hankering to kill young bucks since then for the freezer but the 4 points or better rule has put the kibosh on that.

As a property owner I voted for the antler restriction in Troup. I regret my vote now.

Do you feel like that lead to the deer population decline?

 

[elfiii]

Do you feel like that lead to the deer population decline?

Lots of people switched up and started killing does for the freezer because "Well they raised the limit to 10 does Harold so I guess they want us to kill 'em instead of bucks." "Sounds good to me Tiny. If it's brown, it's down."

 

[buckpasser]

If a meat hunter kills a couple of small bucks he is done for the season. Most likely pretty early in most places because small bucks are easier to find. Now all the older mature deer are still alive and running round. If you force that meat hunter to be an antler hunter that means he has to wait and harvest a mature deer or two for meat. Or, he will resort to killing more does which will impact the herd long run.

Just to play the devil’s advocate…the old mature bucks you speak of are NOT running around because they left in the bed of meat hunter’s truck last year, the year before and the year before that. So, the meat hunter gets his mission accomplished again while the trophy hunter sits silently in his stand, hearing the rifle reports of the meat man. Eventually the anger boiling in the horn hunter spills over onto his peers in his favorite hunting forum and he gets banned!

 

[furtaker]

What's really funny is when a member of the elite horn crowd shoots a buck that they would be mad at somebody else for shooting.

Of course on second thought that's pretty much every deer they kill.

 

[livinoutdoors]

Just to play the devil’s advocate…the old mature bucks you speak of are NOT running around because they left in the bed of meat hunter’s truck last year, the year before and the year before that. So, the meat hunter gets his mission accomplished again while the trophy hunter sits silently in his stand, hearing the rifle reports of the meat man. Eventually the anger boiling in the horn hunter spills over onto his peers in his favorite hunting forum and he gets banned!

Do what now n such?

 

[buckpasser]

Do what now n such?

That’s how it is. The meat man cannot for the life of him understand how he’s bothering the horn man. He don’t even WANT no big rack buck! Wouldn’t shoot him if he saw him. He don’t realize the fork horns he’s stacking up for chili night would be the horn man’s trophy someday. It’s a real conundrum I say. No solution except for us to all be unhappy.

 

[NCHillbilly]

That’s how it is. The meat man cannot for the life of him understand how he’s bothering the horn man. He don’t even WANT no big rack buck! Wouldn’t shoot him if he saw him. He don’t realize the fork horns he’s stacking up for chili night would be the horn man’s trophy someday. It’s a real conundrum I say. No solution except for us to all be unhappy.

Bullcrap. Since we started shooting young bucks instead of does for meat on mine and my buddy's places, we see way more deer now, including more big bucks. It doesn't work the way you think it does. You are only allowed two bucks. There are many more than two on any property. Most of those young bucks are never become tv show bucks if they die from old age, anyway. A dead doe doesn't ever produce trophy or meat bucks.
And that horn man ain't hunting my place to start with. Let him worry about his land and let me worry about mine. He's pretty durn presumptuous to tell me what he thinks I oughta do on my own land I paid for, to begin with. How I hunt is none of his business as long as I'm not poaching or trespassing on his land. Cry me a river. Deer ain't just a life support system for living room decorations. But most people nowadays can't even see the living creature under the horns.

 

[livinoutdoors]

That’s how it is. The meat man cannot for the life of him understand how he’s bothering the horn man. He don’t even WANT no big rack buck! Wouldn’t shoot him if he saw him. He don’t realize the fork horns he’s stacking up for chili night would be the horn man’s trophy someday. It’s a real conundrum I say. No solution except for us to all be unhappy.

But you assume that fork horn will grow to a giant. It might be nothing at all. It might get hit by a car. If you force antler rules on everybody then the only thing that will happen is that meat hunter will shoot that forky buck a year later. Thats it. Or like i said shoot does. Yall have this thing in mind where we all hold off till bucks are 5,6,7 years old. Well hold off then. Nobody is stoppin you.

 

[huntersluck]

I am in favor of antler restrictions if it is decided by hunters through a voting process. I don't want a govt agency to decide. If it is decided through a voting process I am good with whatever the outcome is. I find it funny when someone uses the " do what I want on my own land" argument. I do not know a single person who owns their own land, try not paying your property tax and "your own land " will be sold at your local govt tax sale

 

[furtaker]

I'm somewhat of a horn hunter myself. But man people take this stuff way too seriously. Get out there and have fun. And don't worry about what bucks your neighbor is killing.

 

[buckpasser]

 

[Long Cut]

Threads like this just reinforce the need for a “QDM” or “Deer Management” section on this Forum. Heck name it the “Cull” section for all I care…

Someone came on here asking a question, and now this post is a 7 Page long rant of guys bickering back and forth.

 

[livinoutdoors]

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Lord have mercy. The ego on this un...

 

[WOODIE13]

Put in the gardening section under "Growing Your Bucks...........so your neighbors and insurance companies thank you"

 

[livinoutdoors]

I am in favor of antler restrictions if it is decided by hunters through a voting process. I don't want a govt agency to decide. If it is decided through a voting process I am good with whatever the outcome is. I find it funny when someone uses the " do what I want on my own land" argument. I do not know a single person who owns their own land, try not paying your property tax and "your own land " will be sold at your local govt tax sale

The fact that the state can take your property over a tax bill is a horrid tyranny inflicted on Americans. No need to keep goin in that direction i think.

 

[buckpasser]

Lord have mercy. The ego on this un...

You’re speaking Spanish and me Chinese on this thread man. No ego on my part. I was just funning y’all by playing the stereotype.

As I said, we’re in the golden age. It won’t last forever. Enjoy!