Havoc boats.

snuggle bear · Jan 25, 2015

havoc boats

havocs are nice boats but if your going to hit a lot of stumps I would suggest a gator tail, prodigy or a custom boat with thicker metal. My son has a 1744 gator tail with a gtr 35 and its a tank. top speed of 28 mph but will go just about any where.

FowlPlay1 · Jan 25, 2015

snuggle bear said:
havocs are nice boats but if your going to hit a lot of stumps I would suggest a gator tail, prodigy or a custom boat with thicker metal. My son has a 1744 gator tail with a gtr 35 and its a tank. top speed of 28 mph but will go just about any where.

Yea that seems to be a common topic with the havoc being its .100 not being quite rigid enough to handle the rough stuff.

Gaducker · Jan 25, 2015

mizzippi jb said:
Chad makes his triple tapers to basically the shape of a round chine, if I could draw on this computer I could show ya lol. But instead of a smooth curve it's like 3 2"strips crimped to make the shape. Couldn't see how it would be any different.

And FWIW the excels I've seen don't perform with a mud motor hanging off of them nearly as well as other mud hulls like gator trax, prodigy, and gator tail extreme hulls. Do they work? Yes. But they don't quite measure up in the performance category

I have seen the way there built but have not driven one and while I would buy a boat from Chad, I would not even consider buying one until I carved up a few hard turns with it to make sure it didn't slide and I end up in the water like you did that time.....

mizzippi jb · Jan 25, 2015

Gaducker said:
I have seen the way there built but have not driven one and while I would buy a boat from Chad, I would not even consider buying one until I carved up a few hard turns with it to make sure it didn't slide and I end up in the water like you did that time.....

I didn't end up in the water....my first mate did facepalm:

. The boat I have now turns real well.

Gaducker · Jan 25, 2015

mizzippi jb said:
I didn't end up in the water....my first mate did. The boat I have now turns real well.

Its like nite and day aint it?

DLH_Woodstock · Jan 25, 2015

I am not a boat expert but I hunted out of a Gatortrax boat in Arkansas and it is tough. Brandon Turner (Banded Mallard Company) took it into and out of places I would never have gone or tried to go. I kept telling him your crazy and we're all going to die in the frozen swamp. But that boat never missed a beat. We had to drag it off of and over logs and sandbars but the boat tough and dependable. I came away saying if I came out here much I would be getting one.

Woods Savvy · Jan 25, 2015

mizzippi jb said:
I didn't end up in the water....my first mate did. The boat I have now turns real well.

the havoc is the high performance John boat,I've ran several this year and it will throw you out if you do not have handles. They were made for speed not to jump stumps everyday.

mizzippi jb · Jan 26, 2015

Woods Savvy said:
the havoc is the high performance John boat,I've ran several this year and it will throw you out if you do not have handles. They were made for speed not to jump stumps everyday.

Also known as junk in the mud boat world

GSURugger · Jan 26, 2015

got an Arkansas friend who just recently got a 1650 Havoc with a GTR hanging on it. He had the hull built .125", and I can testify to its stump jumping abilities.

rnelson5 · Jan 26, 2015

Mizzippi JB what kind of boat are you running. I have been looking hard at those prodigys for about a year now and am getting ever closer to pulling the trigger on one but I keep hearing about this "sliding" problem with them. Can you or any one else explain to me why they do it? Me being an outboard guy this is all new to me.

GSURugger · Jan 26, 2015

rnelson5 said:
Mizzippi JB what kind of boat are you running. I have been looking hard at those prodigys for about a year now and am getting ever closer to pulling the trigger on one but I keep hearing about this "sliding" problem with them. Can you or any one else explain to me why they do it? Me being an outboard guy this is all new to me.

Square chine, flat bottom boats will "lose grip" on the water and begin to slide sideways, whereas a round or tapered turns more akin to a bass boat. Square chine boats produce lift which causes the sliding.

When they catch it's pretty hilarious. Skip to about 1:20 or so.

Flaustin1 · Jan 26, 2015

Funny video no doubt.

DLH_Woodstock · Jan 26, 2015

That's scary in my option!
:hair:

bander_TC50 · Jan 26, 2015

thats a definant NO when duckhunting....

Gaducker · Jan 26, 2015

Did yall see him clench his toes up so his mandels didnt fly off.... I just :bounce:

and

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rnelson5 · Jan 26, 2015

GSURugger said:
Square chine, flat bottom boats will "lose grip" on the water and begin to slide sideways, whereas a round or tapered turns more akin to a bass boat. Square chine boats produce lift which causes the sliding.

When they catch it's pretty hilarious. Skip to about 1:20 or so.

Ya that's not cool. Are you saying the the prodigys are prone to do this?

jparham · Jan 26, 2015

Check out f&f boats in Monticello, Arkansas. Custom boats but were reasonable on price, and built like a tank!

Gaducker · Jan 26, 2015

rnelson5 said:
Ya that's not cool. Are you saying the the prodigys are prone to do this?

Im pretty sure a prodigy wont do that but will it do a 180 on a dime if I ask it to like a GT?

dom · Jan 26, 2015

rnelson5 said:
Ya that's not cool. Are you saying the the prodigys are prone to do this?

my prodigy WILL cut a turn. Now depending on weight in the boat i might slide a little but it's nothing like that video.

Weight distribution in flat bottom boats matters!

dom · Jan 26, 2015

Gaducker said:
Im pretty sure a prodigy wont do that but will it do a 180 on a dime if I ask it to like a GT?

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