thanks for the info. this will be a learning expereince for me. ideally i would avoid cattle but i fealt this opportunity was too good to pass up. 2700 acres, though mainly pasture land, and just two of us hunting it. he bow hunts and ill be only gun hunter. its his family farm that they have had for many generations he he annually takes a 150 inch plus buck off of it. along with the cameras, just trying to determine where the cattle will be at that time and how much of that should factor in on where i should hunt.