Hey Boomers, what do you think?

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
How do you figure? It’s so easy right now it’s scary. 28 percent of people work hybrid with two days a week in office, 12 percent never leave home and work in pajamas.
A good many of the last decade had 2% home loans and 0% car loans.

You can get a home loan without leaving your bed. Get groceries delivered instead of shopping. Run the truck thru a hand wash.

Let’s not forget the Boomers had the Carter years. The tax rate for the Boomers that made a good wage was insane. The Top income rate was over 90%.

Granted the last few years have been tough, but they don’t make a generation.

Most important was a Boomer took me under his wing and taught me how to advance in life. A bunch of stuff people think is stupid today but it worked for me. Uncompromising work ethic, show up on time and be a man of your word.
How does that change what i said though? Boomers is still boomin too! Boom on boomers!
 

pjciii

Senior Member
Sometimes I have to remember Kent State, the Weatherman, Black panthers. I have to remember things like the Chattahooche River Raft Race, Life guarding down in Panama City. Going west of Knoxville,TN with a school friend to walk behind a flat bead trailer tossing hay bales up. The 60's were chaotic, the 70's were fun, did care for Disco in the 80's but I got married and we had a son.

Going to my Grandfather's lake Greenwood learning how to ski, fishing day and night. Running wild with my cousins in Abbeville and Charleston. I don't know, this Era has been pretty good.
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
How does that change what i said though? Boomers is still boomin too! Boom on boomers!
Some are for sure, but a good many had jobs that broke them down in the later years.
We can make fun of them for walking 6 miles to school, but my last tree guy took out the tree with a bucket truck and ground the stump with a remote control grinder. Those boomers climbed that tree with a saw and spike shoes.
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
Sometimes I have to remember Kent State, the Weatherman, Black panthers. I have to remember things like the Chattahooche River Raft Race, Life guarding down in Panama City. Going west of Knoxville,TN with a school friend to walk behind a flat bead trailer tossing hay bales up. The 60's were chaotic, the 70's were fun, did care for Disco in the 80's but I got married and we had a son.

Going to my Grandfather's lake Greenwood learning how to ski, fishing day and night. Running wild with my cousins in Abbeville and Charleston. I don't know, this Era has been pretty good.
Life guard in PC was everyone’s dream job in high school. :bounce:
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
Some are for sure, but a good many had jobs that broke them down in the later years.
We can make fun of them for walking 6 miles to school, but my last tree guy took out the tree with a bucket truck and ground the stump with a remote control grinder. Those boomers climbed that tree with a saw and spike shoes.
Man i aint sayin they had it all made or anything, and yes life is easy now too, but they were the first generation to get to go to college in large numbers, had easier jobs than their parents mostly, and had a good quality of life that by far exceeded the people before them. They had it pretty good.
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
Man i aint sayin they had it all made or anything, and yes life is easy now too, but they were the first generation to get to go to college in large numbers, had easier jobs than their parents mostly, and had a good quality of life that by far exceeded the people before them. They had it pretty good.
My grandfather had a 1000 acre farm and worked his tail off but he seemed to enjoy it. You’re right though, when it was time to eat he sent my dad to wring a chicken neck. It seems the Depression toughened them up, the Carter years toughened up the boomers, 2008 toughened most of us on the forum up and 2020 is putting its stamp on these young folks.

I have no idea how to get these young folks into a cycle for success. We won’t have a favorable housing supply on the Ga coast for years.
 

Baroque Brass

Senior Member
2008 was definitely a setback for me and the wife. Sure wish I had the 50% we lost on our investments. We’ve recovered but we’d be way better off if the crash hadn’t occurred.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
My grandfather had a 1000 acre farm and worked his tail off but he seemed to enjoy it. You’re right though, when it was time to eat he sent my dad to wring a chicken neck. It seems the Depression toughened them up, the Carter years toughened up the boomers, 2008 toughened most of us on the forum up and 2020 is putting its stamp on these young folks.

I have no idea how to get these young folks into a cycle for success. We won’t have a favorable housing supply on the Ga coast for years.
Every generation has its things to deal with. Sometimes i think all that really matters ( to a point ) is what things were like when you were gettin goin in life. Say like age 18 till maybe 28. If things were stable then here in America you probably had a pretty good shot at things. Can you imagine being born around 1900? Several severe market downturns right around your birth, then spanish flu and WW1. If ya survived that here comes the Great depression followed by WW2. Ouch!
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
Every generation has its things to deal with. Sometimes i think all that really matters ( to a point ) is what things were like when you were gettin goin in life. Say like age 18 till maybe 28. If things were stable then here in America you probably had a pretty good shot at things. Can you imagine being born around 1900? Several severe market downturns right around your birth, then spanish flu and WW1. If ya survived that here comes the Great depression followed by WW2. Ouch!
Agree, timing is crucial. I know a few who had the means to buy a house in 2020 when prices and interest were low. They hesitated and are now paying crazy rent with no idea when they can get out of this trap.

On the other end my 26 yr old niece bought a house with her new husband in 2019. They paid 147k at 2.99%. They have 150k equity and a cheap house payment.

Both people are about the same age and one is set up for success and the other in deep trouble with skyrocketing rent.
 
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Batjack

Cap`n Jack 1313
Every generation has its things to deal with. Sometimes i think all that really matters ( to a point ) is what things were like when you were gettin goin in life. Say like age 18 till maybe 28. If things were stable then here in America you probably had a pretty good shot at things. Can you imagine being born around 1900? Several severe market downturns right around your birth, then spanish flu and WW1. If ya survived that here comes the Great depression followed by WW2. Ouch!
I hear about that stuff on a daily basis... Mom's Dad fought in WWI and she was born in the middle of the depression. Her favorite joke is that they were so poor she didn't know there was a depression till she read about it in high school.
 

earlthegoat2

Senior Member
I think you boomers were also born a bit too late. You got to be on the front lines as the country slowly sunk and got to witness it as it directly affected you.

Born in the thirties probably would have been better.
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
I hear about that stuff on a daily basis... Mom's Dad fought in WWI and she was born in the middle of the depression. Her favorite joke is that they were so poor she didn't know there was a depression till she read about it in high school.
I have my grandmothers high school diploma from 1919. It took me a few years to realize it had her married name on it and my Grandfather was already running the farm at 20. My dad was born 1929.
I don’t recall my grandfather went to much schooling.
 

GunnSmokeer

Senior Member
For me, as a white guy, I think I would prefer to have been born around the year 1890 --watching the development that took place in America and all of Western civilization, from that time up until the end of my life maybe in the early 1970s.

I'd have childhood memories of oil lamps, outhouses, horses and wagons, heating your home with a coal-fired furnace, and getting the news exclusively by reading a newspaper.

By the end of my life I would've seen the widespread use of electricity in peoples homes, radio 1st, television some 30 years later, automobiles, airplanes, commercial air travel replacing trains for passenger service, nuclear energy, nuclear weapons, and man's exploration of space.

But, that period of American history was not a good time to be a woman or a person of color so those people we're gonna get "the short end of the stick" until basically the 1970s when we not only had a bunch of federal civil rights laws but the courts had a track record of aggressively enforcing them thru lawsuits and criminal prosecutions.


(Keep in mind this *is* the MLK, Jr. holiday weekend so I have to figure-in the fates and fortunes of people who look different from myself.)
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
For me, as a white guy, I think I would prefer to have been born around the year 1890 --watching the development that took place in America and all of Western civilization, from that time up until the end of my life maybe in the early 1970s.

I'd have childhood memories of oil lamps, outhouses, horses and wagons, heating your home with a coal-fired furnace, and getting the news exclusively by reading a newspaper.

By the end of my life I would've seen the widespread use of electricity in peoples homes, radio 1st, television some 30 years later, automobiles, airplanes, commercial air travel replacing trains for passenger service, nuclear energy, nuclear weapons, and man's exploration of space.

But, that period of American history was not a good time to be a woman or a person of color so those people we're gonna get "the short end of the stick" until basically the 1970s when we not only had a bunch of federal civil rights laws but the courts had a track record of aggressively enforcing them thru lawsuits and criminal prosecutions.


(Keep in mind this *is* the MLK, Jr. holiday weekend so I have to figure-in the fates and fortunes of people who look different from myself.)
Thats assumin alot here now. As a fellow white guy i would say at that time you could have just as easily been spending your nights resting your head on a sleeping rope waiting for that factory to open. Then grab a hunk of stale bread for supper. Sounds fun!
 

fflintlock

Useles Billy’s Clubhouse Maintenance man
The cars and music was definitely better in the 60's and 70's. But let's not leave out those older cars and trucks, the 40's and 50's were good also.
 

Kev

Senior Member
Some are for sure, but a good many had jobs that broke them down in the later years.
We can make fun of them for walking 6 miles to school, but my last tree guy took out the tree with a bucket truck and ground the stump with a remote control grinder. Those boomers climbed that tree with a saw and spike shoes.
They didn’t climb the trees, their illegal help did for little pay.
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
Every generation has its things to deal with. Sometimes i think all that really matters ( to a point ) is what things were like when you were gettin goin in life. Say like age 18 till maybe 28. If things were stable then here in America you probably had a pretty good shot at things. Can you imagine being born around 1900? Several severe market downturns right around your birth, then spanish flu and WW1. If ya survived that here comes the Great depression followed by WW2. Ouch!
you just describe my Papa. He was born in 1900, my Granny in 1903. By the time he was 40, Papa had 9 babies to raise and not a penny to pinch. He share cropped until my Uncle Lee, who had a grading business, bought him a house with about 40 acres. My Uncle Lee knew what Papa and Granny had sacrificed to raise their kids, and he was determined to help them all he could. Two of their kids died young, one was just a few weeks old, the other a toddler. So along with the outside worlds issues, they had their own turmoil.

I don't know how they survived it
 

sinclair1

Senior Member
They didn’t climb the trees, their illegal help did for little pay.
Not my experience. The climbers were young guys out of the mountains. Pounds tree service had an older climber that was also a white guy.
To be honest I have never seen an illegal do anything in the tree business except do the pick up.

I use small companies, so it could just be my choice in who I hire.
 
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