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If you hunt Illinois you support gun confiscation and a 72hr waiting period
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Lot' of people are brain dead when it comes to guns. He's one of them.
DoubleRR
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"You can't fix stupid!"
Mexican Squealer
Senior Member
Whew glad i hunt in SE Minn
Jeetdawg
Senior Member
I can assure you that the parts of the state I have hunted/currently hunt have some great folks that would give you the shirt off their back. Furthermore, they dislike the Chicago politics, so broadbrushing the state is like comparing good ole boys around GA to what goes on in Atlanta. In any case, I’ll support my farmer and enjoy hunting giants in some beautiful country of Illinois.
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Agree 100%.
Jim Boyd
Senior Member
Really???!!
I am often disappointed (but rarely surprised) when I see people make statements that either reveal a deep lack of knowledge on a particular subject (yet they are willing to expound on that subject anyway) or they are just plain low on the IQ scale.
So, some idiot in Chicago – a city that for all intents and purposes is lost to society (and most certainly despised by the vast majority of the state) proposes gun control and now “anyone that hunts in Illinois supports these extreme gun control measures”…
Really – did you just say that? Do you understand what that reveals about your overall understanding of the world?
Is that to say that If you visit Florida for any reason – you also support gun control measures? Many politicians – after the recent high school shooting (which was tragic) called for many of the same controls. So…. are you not going to the beach, the Keys, Disney, offshore fishing, diving, lobstering, chasing scallops – all because some idiot called for gun controls?
You can make this same argument, ad nauseum, for many other states and locations too…. Just pick one.
And some guy thinks he is making a statement by driving through Illinois – and he does not buy a Big Mac and does not fill up his fuel tank – do you REALLY think this serves to do ANYTHING to the idiots in Chicago? It accomplishes squat. It might make the guy feel smug – “yeah, I showed them, didn’t I” but you accomplished nothing. All that did, particularly if you drove through the lower 2/3 of the state, was deprive local businesses of revenue and most of Illinois despises Chicago anyway (more on that later).
Only united efforts affect change. Not buying a hamburger and getting fuel accomplishes nothing.
I would genuinely ask if you understand the power and political entrenchment of the NRA and the influence they can exert?
Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation yet they suffer one of the most horrific gun problems in the United States.
One of the things people need to understand is that Illinois is genuinely two entities. Chicago, with a long history of corruption - and then - the rest of the state. Largely rural, largely agriculture and cattle farms. The people that inhabit 95% of the land basically despise the millions of people that make up Chicago and they are largely embarrassed by the city. They know the state is financially broke and they are embarrassed by that (and much more – which would include the elected officials, which are elected by the millions of people that live in the CITY). The rest of the rural folks are good, honest, loving and loyal people that just happen to live in Illinois.
Then along comes some “know it all” that says if you hunt there – you support radical gun control.
Does that also mean, then, that if you live there – you also support radical gun control? Even if you are a salt-of-the-earth fourth generation farmer with a long and storied Republican heritage?
I mentioned that the people that live in Illinois are embarrassed about Chicago.
I, too, am embarrassed. Embarrassed that people that are 900 miles away and may know very little about the state – and know NOTHING about people like me (my name is Jim Boyd, I am a Republican and I am a Christian) that hunt there – state unequivocally that I support radical gun control.
After I get over being embarrassed – I start laughing. Hard.
Then I shoot the bow all summer, do a work weekend in September, pack up in November and head to one of the best deer hunting destinations on the planet (where I will likely see more mature bucks in two weeks that some people in Georgia see in their lifetime), visit with people that treat me like I am family, enjoy meals with them, have full and free run over 347 acres and best yet - the stench of Chicago, 200 miles to the north, is NOT on my radar.
Go. Stay. Drive around the state. Do what you want. Squawk about things you know little about. It makes no matter to me. I am a deer hunter and not a politician and I do what deer hunters do. I hunt.
Hope everyone has a great 2018 season!
I am often disappointed (but rarely surprised) when I see people make statements that either reveal a deep lack of knowledge on a particular subject (yet they are willing to expound on that subject anyway) or they are just plain low on the IQ scale.
So, some idiot in Chicago – a city that for all intents and purposes is lost to society (and most certainly despised by the vast majority of the state) proposes gun control and now “anyone that hunts in Illinois supports these extreme gun control measures”…
Really – did you just say that? Do you understand what that reveals about your overall understanding of the world?
Is that to say that If you visit Florida for any reason – you also support gun control measures? Many politicians – after the recent high school shooting (which was tragic) called for many of the same controls. So…. are you not going to the beach, the Keys, Disney, offshore fishing, diving, lobstering, chasing scallops – all because some idiot called for gun controls?
You can make this same argument, ad nauseum, for many other states and locations too…. Just pick one.
And some guy thinks he is making a statement by driving through Illinois – and he does not buy a Big Mac and does not fill up his fuel tank – do you REALLY think this serves to do ANYTHING to the idiots in Chicago? It accomplishes squat. It might make the guy feel smug – “yeah, I showed them, didn’t I” but you accomplished nothing. All that did, particularly if you drove through the lower 2/3 of the state, was deprive local businesses of revenue and most of Illinois despises Chicago anyway (more on that later).
Only united efforts affect change. Not buying a hamburger and getting fuel accomplishes nothing.
I would genuinely ask if you understand the power and political entrenchment of the NRA and the influence they can exert?
Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation yet they suffer one of the most horrific gun problems in the United States.
One of the things people need to understand is that Illinois is genuinely two entities. Chicago, with a long history of corruption - and then - the rest of the state. Largely rural, largely agriculture and cattle farms. The people that inhabit 95% of the land basically despise the millions of people that make up Chicago and they are largely embarrassed by the city. They know the state is financially broke and they are embarrassed by that (and much more – which would include the elected officials, which are elected by the millions of people that live in the CITY). The rest of the rural folks are good, honest, loving and loyal people that just happen to live in Illinois.
Then along comes some “know it all” that says if you hunt there – you support radical gun control.
Does that also mean, then, that if you live there – you also support radical gun control? Even if you are a salt-of-the-earth fourth generation farmer with a long and storied Republican heritage?
I mentioned that the people that live in Illinois are embarrassed about Chicago.
I, too, am embarrassed. Embarrassed that people that are 900 miles away and may know very little about the state – and know NOTHING about people like me (my name is Jim Boyd, I am a Republican and I am a Christian) that hunt there – state unequivocally that I support radical gun control.
After I get over being embarrassed – I start laughing. Hard.
Then I shoot the bow all summer, do a work weekend in September, pack up in November and head to one of the best deer hunting destinations on the planet (where I will likely see more mature bucks in two weeks that some people in Georgia see in their lifetime), visit with people that treat me like I am family, enjoy meals with them, have full and free run over 347 acres and best yet - the stench of Chicago, 200 miles to the north, is NOT on my radar.
Go. Stay. Drive around the state. Do what you want. Squawk about things you know little about. It makes no matter to me. I am a deer hunter and not a politician and I do what deer hunters do. I hunt.
Hope everyone has a great 2018 season!
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mizzippi jb
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Well said Mr Boyd. And I, for 1, am agreeing with you wholeheartedly. Anybody got any reason(s) why I shouldn't go to Iowa? Feel free to post them....I'll smile and wave as I pass you on the interstate.
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Chief Big Taw
Can you hunt over bait in Illinois?
Jim Boyd
Senior Member
No sir...
I don't care how great the hunting and people are. The state sucks because of its stupid draconian laws that extend statewide, and I prefer to not even set foot in it. Any state that I have to disassemble my carry pistol and lock it up separate from the ammo to drive through is not a destination for me. I know several of those good people from Illinois who got sick of it and left and moved somewhere that isn't like a Communist country.
Looks like all these good people there need to do something to make their voices heard instead of quietly submitting to the communism.
Looks like all these good people there need to do something to make their voices heard instead of quietly submitting to the communism.
PappyHoel
Senior Member
You said alot to defend your deer hunting in an anti gun state. Wonder if thats low IQ?
mizzippi jb
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Maybe you should try Illinois or some other Midwest pappy. Seems like you're having a real hard time here in Ga where they are behind every tree. If you can't see deer in Ga (I don't care where you are or what you think your deer population is), you may need to pick up a 22 and try squirrels. But then I'm sure there are very low numbers (conveniently) of those too in which ever area of the state you choose to hunt. There's a reason or 3 not to visit every place on the globe.....depending on your views. So if you want to cut off your nose to spite your face and not go enjoy things that other places have to offer (whatever that may be), so be it. But don't try petty insults of name calling because of it.
Nice Buck but by going up to Illinois and spending your money in their state you are supporting a liberal, left wing, socialist, pseudo communist government that is wholeheartedly opposed to many beliefs and principles I hold dear.
Stop kidding yourself. Democrats are bad news and Illinois is full of them. Sales tax rates run from 6.25% to as high as 11%. If you so such as buy a cheese burger from a vendor in Illinois you are supporting Democrats and there agenda. Find somewhere else to hunt.
Democrats are not playing. They have a non stop no holds barred agenda to change the face of this country as we know it. To claim your a Christian and a Republican and play patty cake with them and try to justify why you support them (and by going up there and gracing them with your money through sales tax dollars you are supporting them) is misguided unless your a Democrat and thats what you believe.
You do what ever makes you happy and Ill continue to stop in Kentucky (Hello Mr. Paul!) and pass through Illinois (goodbye Tammy and Dick!) only leaving the rubber of my tires on the interstate that I helped pay for (and ironically Democrats will have something to say about that).
Best of luck in 2018.
OBTW ...howd that Buck taste?
General Sherman
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I would say it takes a very low IQ to spend hundreds of hours on a piece of property with zero deer on it when you are surrounded by public lands.
Joe Brandon
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meatseeker
Senior Member
Wow. I hope if you guys buy corn for feed or to bait your checking to see where it comes from. It might be from Illinois. Probably should ask at restaurants to. Ask em did them beans come from Illinois. I guess all you guys who are so radical buy everything made in America too. Nothing from China or tía land. Anybody against delta or united airlines? Cause they fly to Chicago. Boycott them too. Or McDonald’s. They are there too. My personal findings were spot on with Mr Boyd. Mostly good
Folks that I’ve run into. You just can’t group everyone together because of where they live or where they go. Good grief.
Folks that I’ve run into. You just can’t group everyone together because of where they live or where they go. Good grief.
Jim Boyd
Senior Member
Pappy
You call my IQ into question. I, too, do that fairly frequently! What I don’t do, however, is to make blatant statements that judge ALL people that I don’t even know. So, if you hunt in Illinois, you support restrictive gun laws, right? That is what you said and what you believe, correct? So with such strong feelings about the matter, one would have to assume that you make an equally firm stand regarding products from or visits to other states or countries that are as bad or worse than Illinois. Is this correct? If yes, can we assume that you would never eat any fruit or produce from California? They have the most restrictive gun laws in the nation (Illinois is number nine on that list by the way – and I am in no way defending Illinois in their gun laws, they are reprehensible).
Can I also assume that you would never drive a car from Japan or perhaps purchase products that came from China? Would you mind also if I asked where you have vacationed in the last 10 years? I think you see by now what I am driving at. If you only take your stand when it is convenient or when it pleases you, you are very much a hypocrite.
NCHB
I understand your view points and I would have been surprised had you answered in any fashion other than your reply. I am a “carry” person but am not 24/7 as some are. I know danger can come at any moment, my .45 kept me from getting robbed by three individuals with chains about 20 years ago. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was fortunate to have not been either robbed or beaten. When I go to Illinois I don’t even take a pistol with me. That does mean I’m a little bit more careful about where and when I go places. Some people are a little more insistent about carry and you are one of them. I get it.... I mean no insult in this but I would also ask you many of the same questions I asked Pappy....
Rulo,
I would also ask you the same questions I asked Pappy. You go as far as to tell me quit kidding myself and you also tell me find somewhere else to hunt. Can we safely assume that you manage your life, everywhere you go, all the food you eat, and all the products you purchase, etc, with the same fervor that you suggest I use when it comes to choosing a place to hunt? If not, you are asking me to make a stand that you may not personally make.
All of the deer that I take in Illinois are donated to “Hunters for the Hungry”, so I can’t answer your question about taste. One of these days, I will work to harvest a young doe, have her tested for CWD and bring her home for the freezer.
In the final assessment (and this is just my opinion), if anyone ONLY chooses their stand when it is convenient and easy to do - and you have strong opinions about what other folks should and should not do - I fear the level of hypocrisy is high.
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You call my IQ into question. I, too, do that fairly frequently! What I don’t do, however, is to make blatant statements that judge ALL people that I don’t even know. So, if you hunt in Illinois, you support restrictive gun laws, right? That is what you said and what you believe, correct? So with such strong feelings about the matter, one would have to assume that you make an equally firm stand regarding products from or visits to other states or countries that are as bad or worse than Illinois. Is this correct? If yes, can we assume that you would never eat any fruit or produce from California? They have the most restrictive gun laws in the nation (Illinois is number nine on that list by the way – and I am in no way defending Illinois in their gun laws, they are reprehensible).
Can I also assume that you would never drive a car from Japan or perhaps purchase products that came from China? Would you mind also if I asked where you have vacationed in the last 10 years? I think you see by now what I am driving at. If you only take your stand when it is convenient or when it pleases you, you are very much a hypocrite.
NCHB
I understand your view points and I would have been surprised had you answered in any fashion other than your reply. I am a “carry” person but am not 24/7 as some are. I know danger can come at any moment, my .45 kept me from getting robbed by three individuals with chains about 20 years ago. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was fortunate to have not been either robbed or beaten. When I go to Illinois I don’t even take a pistol with me. That does mean I’m a little bit more careful about where and when I go places. Some people are a little more insistent about carry and you are one of them. I get it.... I mean no insult in this but I would also ask you many of the same questions I asked Pappy....
Rulo,
I would also ask you the same questions I asked Pappy. You go as far as to tell me quit kidding myself and you also tell me find somewhere else to hunt. Can we safely assume that you manage your life, everywhere you go, all the food you eat, and all the products you purchase, etc, with the same fervor that you suggest I use when it comes to choosing a place to hunt? If not, you are asking me to make a stand that you may not personally make.
All of the deer that I take in Illinois are donated to “Hunters for the Hungry”, so I can’t answer your question about taste. One of these days, I will work to harvest a young doe, have her tested for CWD and bring her home for the freezer.
In the final assessment (and this is just my opinion), if anyone ONLY chooses their stand when it is convenient and easy to do - and you have strong opinions about what other folks should and should not do - I fear the level of hypocrisy is high.
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