Question about late evening trophy kills...

Rich M

Senior Member
If I'm paying $450 for a mount, I want it skinned correctly - around eyes, ears, lips, etc. Let the taxidermist do it.

Otherwise I'll keep processing deer just like I was taught 45 years ago - don;t care if it is head up, hocks up, laying on side - it don't matter - skin it, quarter it, get rid of bones & hide, maybe cut antlers off w skull cap, maybe not.

To each his own.
 

across the river

Senior Member
So if you raise a cow or pig and take it to the slaughter house to have them
process it for you, does that mean you are not really a farmer??? Asking for the FFA.
 

stubrew

Senior Member
Glad this became more peaceful. Thought you boys were going to have to stop chugging the syrup. "You know how these boys get when they get that syrup in em". Bonus points to whoever names that reference first

I'm going with Super Troopers.
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
So if you raise a cow or pig and take it to the slaughter house to have them
process it for you, does that mean you are not really a farmer??? Asking for the FFA.
We always processed, cured, and put up our own when I was growing up. Pretty much everybody did. There was a smokehouse/meat house in every yard. You wouldn't have even thought about going and paying hard-earned money to have somebody else cut your hogs or steer up. It would have been considered very strange if someone did then. I guess that background is one reason that processing my own game meat is just second nature, and I don't want anybody else touching it.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
So if you raise a cow or pig and take it to the slaughter house to have them
process it for you, does that mean you are not really a farmer??? Asking for the FFA.
Back in the day, the feds didnt require a stamp on the meat, now they do. Most small farms cant afford to keep an fda inspector manned processing facility on the farm, so they sent it out to get that stamp. If you are selling the meat to customers, the man wants to peek at it.
 

JustUs4All

Slow Mod
Staff member
I'm sure we have some here who will set their own broken legs and pull their own wisdom teeth. I'm pretty sure I could do it too if I had to but, if possible, I'm going to the doctor and the dentist. Call me lazy if you must. LOL
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
I'm sure we have some here who will set their own broken legs and pull their own wisdom teeth. I'm pretty sure I could do it too if I had to but, if possible, I'm going to the doctor and the dentist. Call me lazy if you must. LOL
Good set o pullers and a rope a couple of sticks and you are all set. Saves alot of money????
 

JustUs4All

Slow Mod
Staff member
And -- You know how it was done.
And -- Nobody else touches your stuff.
And -- You can do it in the kitchen.
And -- That ought to do it.
 

across the river

Senior Member
We always processed, cured, and put up our own when I was growing up. Pretty much everybody did. There was a smokehouse/meat house in every yard. You wouldn't have even thought about going and paying hard-earned money to have somebody else cut your hogs or steer up. It would have been considered very strange if someone did then. I guess that background is one reason that processing my own game meat is just second nature, and I don't want anybody else touching it.

Back in the day, the feds didnt require a stamp on the meat, now they do. Most small farms cant afford to keep an fda inspector manned processing facility on the farm, so they sent it out to get that stamp. If you are selling the meat to customers, the man wants to peek at it.


My grandfather processed many a pig and cow when I was a kid, and I was right there with him. Been there, done that, got blood on my t-shirt. You still didn’t answer the question. There are plenty of people out there with small farms that take a cow or pig to the processor to have it cut up for them to eat. I’m not talking about someone having cows sent out to be sold at Publix. Are they “not a farmer” because the packing house cut it up? Are the kids that raise a pig for the FFA not really future “farmers” because they took the pig to have bacon made out of it after the fair? Ya’ll seem to have the technicalities down, so I’m just trying to get everything straight.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
My grandfather processed many a pig and cow when I was a kid, and I was right there with him. Been there, done that, got blood on my t-shirt. You still didn’t answer the question. There are plenty of people out there with small farms that take a cow or pig to the processor to have it cut up for them to eat. I’m not talking about someone having cows sent out to be sold at Publix. Are they “not a farmer” because the packing house cut it up? Are the kids that raise a pig for the FFA not really future “farmers” because they took the pig to have bacon made out of it after the fair? Ya’ll seem to have the technicalities down, so I’m just trying to get everything straight.
Haha they are of course still farmers! I just meant they dont always have a choice in the matter. My neighbor doesnt butcher any of the 20 bazillion chickens that come out of his houses but im pretty sure he is still a farmer. Yes quite sure?
 

RamblinWreck

Senior Member
As a former staff member here (long time ago) and staff member at a much bigger site, I don't think it is appropriate for mods or staff members to post critical/condescending/challenging/acrimonious/insulting or otherwise bellicose opinions that are going to troll up controversy, whether it is intended or not, apology notwithstanding. It happens here quite often. Staff should moderate controversy, not contribute to it. My $0.02
 

across the river

Senior Member
Haha they are of course still farmers! I just meant they dont always have a choice in the matter. My neighbor doesnt butcher any of the 20 bazillion chickens that come out of his houses but im pretty sure he is still a farmer. Yes quite sure?

It has been said on here that if you don't process your own deer, or at least have vast experience doing it, then you are not a "hunter." Just trying to see if the kid that raised a pig for the FFA, but didn't slaughter and dress it themselves was still a future "farmer", or if we needed to petition to have the name changed the FFFA, for Future Fake Farmers of America.
My aunt raises cows and occasionally has one butchered at the local packing house. To my knowledge she has never dressed one herself, but she still has a sign at the road with her last name and then FARM behind it. Didn't know if I needed to tell her to take it down since she sent the cows to the packing house and didn't do it herself.
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
As a former staff member here (long time ago) and staff member at a much bigger site, I don't think it is appropriate for mods or staff members to post critical/condescending/challenging/acrimonious/insulting or otherwise bellicose opinions that are going to troll up controversy, whether it is intended or not, apology notwithstanding. It happens here quite often. Staff should moderate controversy, not contribute to it. My $0.02
On the flip side, I am also a member, and was for a long time before I became a staff member. Seems like you think we aren't allowed to have opinions, participate in discussions, or say anything at all that you don't agree with. Seems like my saying something you don't agree with is my crime. Heaven forbid, don't go into the political forum if a thread about skinning a deer bothers you that bad. People expressing different opinions isn't "controversy." It is called a discussion. If you only talk to people who agree with everything you say, you never learn anything. If someone disagrees with me, it doesn't ruin my day. You are perfectly welcome to disagree with me. I get my mind and opinions changed sometimes because of discussions on here. I don't even agree with my wife all the time, much less every one of tens of thousands of members on an internet forum. All I did was to express my opinion that if a man is going to go out and kill deer, he should maybe learn how to skin and gut one, which is very basic hunting knowledge, and a bunch of people all of a sudden act like I am condoning cannibalism. I wouldn't let my kids drive by themselves either until they showed me they could change a flat tire. I don't see the big deal.
 
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saltysenior

Senior Member
I raised a pig 2 times for a FFA project...no way I could butcher them ''pets''.....but game is a different story...and yes I was a Future Fake Farmer ,BUT , the family owned only 4 acres...
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
My grandfather processed many a pig and cow when I was a kid, and I was right there with him. Been there, done that, got blood on my t-shirt. You still didn’t answer the question. There are plenty of people out there with small farms that take a cow or pig to the processor to have it cut up for them to eat. I’m not talking about someone having cows sent out to be sold at Publix. Are they “not a farmer” because the packing house cut it up? Are the kids that raise a pig for the FFA not really future “farmers” because they took the pig to have bacon made out of it after the fair? Ya’ll seem to have the technicalities down, so I’m just trying to get everything straight.
You are talking apples and engine blocks now. I was in the FFA for five years. I still say that every hunter who kills deer should learn how to skin and gut a deer, whether or not they do it with all the deer they kill. You are free to disagree. :cheers:
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
It has been said on here that if you don't process your own deer, or at least have vast experience doing it, then you are not a "hunter." Just trying to see if the kid that raised a pig for the FFA, but didn't slaughter and dress it themselves was still a future "farmer", or if we needed to petition to have the name changed the FFFA, for Future Fake Farmers of America.
My aunt raises cows and occasionally has one butchered at the local packing house. To my knowledge she has never dressed one herself, but she still has a sign at the road with her last name and then FARM behind it. Didn't know if I needed to tell her to take it down since she sent the cows to the packing house and didn't do it herself.
Look im not here to tell anybody what they are or arent. Do what ever you want and call it what ever you want. Aint no big deal to me. I hunt and i farm, and i am hardly an expert at either. I am however an expert at running my mouth on the internet.??
 

Da Possum

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As a former staff member here (long time ago) and staff member at a much bigger site, I don't think it is appropriate for mods or staff members to post critical/condescending/challenging/acrimonious/insulting or otherwise bellicose opinions that are going to troll up controversy, whether it is intended or not, apology notwithstanding. It happens here quite often. Staff should moderate controversy, not contribute to it. My $0.02

For real????
 

across the river

Senior Member
On the flip side, I am also a member, and was for a long time before I became a staff member. Seems like you think we aren't allowed to have opinions, participate in discussions, or say anything at all that you don't agree with. Seems like my saying something you don't agree with is my crime. Heaven forbid, don't go into the political forum if a thread about skinning a deer bothers you that bad. People expressing different opinions isn't "controversy." It is called a discussion. If you only talk to people who agree with everything you say, you never learn anything. If someone disagrees with me, it doesn't ruin my day. You are perfectly welcome to disagree with me. I get my mind and opinions changed sometimes because of discussions on here. I don't even agree with my wife all the time, much less every one of tens of thousands of members on an internet forum. All I did was to express my opinion that if a man is going to go out and kill deer, he should maybe learn how to skin and gut one, which is very basic hunting knowledge, and a bunch of people all of a sudden act like I am condoning cannibalism. I wouldn't let my kids drive by themselves either until they showed me they could change a flat tire. I don't see the big deal.

Now you and I are completely in agreement on this. Everybody has an opinion. If you can't take someone else expressing theirs, maybe an internet forum for discussion isn't the place for you. If you post something, people have a right to comment. Don't say, " what do you think about........?" and then get mad when someone doesn't give you the positive affirmation you mommy does. I will be the first to discuss, converse, argue, whatever you want to call it, but that is how you learn. If you only have dealing with people who act like you, think like you, and agree with everything you say, you need to broaden you horizons. Even a lot of adults nowadays have such thin skin. I just don't get it.
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
Now you and I are completely in agreement on this. Everybody has an opinion. If you can't take someone else expressing theirs, maybe an internet forum for discussion isn't the place for you. If you post something, people have a right to comment. Don't say, " what do you think about........?" and then get mad when someone doesn't give you the positive affirmation you mommy does. I will be the first to discuss, converse, argue, whatever you want to call it, but that is how you learn. If you only have dealing with people who act like you, think like you, and agree with everything you say, you need to broaden you horizons. Even a lot of adults nowadays have such thin skin. I just don't get it.
Perzackly. :cheers:
 
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