Turkey Gun Choke and Shot combinations?

[gabreamfanatic]

well this year i am using a 20 ga with a kicks choke. just got to get out and figure out what works best

 

[RidgeRooster]

Benelli Super Black Eagle 2 w/ Steady grip and trigger job.
Burris 1X Extended Eye Relief scope.
Rhino .660 Choke.
Nitro Heavy Shot 4x5x7's 3.5".

RidgeRooster

 

[Gadget]

Pick your poison.

Browning Citori 525 12ga Titanium Comp-n-Chokes
Benelli SBE II 12ga Comp-n-Choke , Tru-glo
Browning BPS 12ga Tru-glo, PureGold, Kicks GT, Browning Bird Buster
Browning BPS 12ga Tru-glo, PureGold, Kicks GT, Browning Bird Buster
Harrison & Richardson 20ga no choke necassary, custom 50 yd barrel..

 

[Gadget]

another shot

 

[Handgunner]

A'ight Gadget, you're just braggin' now!

Nice lookin' weapons!

Another question. On the chokes y'all are shooting, what diameters?

I'm thinking going with a TruGlo .665 I think it is... I went to the TruGlo website, they have like 6-7 different ones, which ones are y'all shooting?

 

[Ricochet]

Indian Creek & Hevi 13 combo

NWTF Still Target Championship Winners:

Steve Conover, of Jamestown, Ky., won the 12-gauge Hunter division, shooting a Browning BPS with an Indian Creek .650 choke tube and Hevi 13 ammunition. Mike Ponder, of Altenburg, Mo., won the 12-gauge Open division, shooting a custom-built shotgun, an Indian Creek .640 choke tube and Hevi 13 ammunition.

http://www.nwtf.org/nwtf_newsroom/press_releases.php?id=11999
http://www.hevi-shot.com/products_turkey_specials.html
http://www.indiancreekss.com/home.htm

Well, the above choke/ammo combos appear to work rather well. I think this combo is worth a try and certainly far more affordable than the Rhino/Nitro combos.

 

[Handgunner]

NWTF Still Target Championship Winners:

Steve Conover, of Jamestown, Ky., won the 12-gauge Hunter division, shooting a Browning BPS with an Indian Creek .650 choke tube and Hevi 13 ammunition. Mike Ponder, of Altenburg, Mo., won the 12-gauge Open division, shooting a custom-built shotgun, an Indian Creek .640 choke tube and Hevi 13 ammunition.

http://www.nwtf.org/nwtf_newsroom/press_releases.php?id=11999
http://www.hevi-shot.com/products_turkey_specials.html
http://www.indiancreekss.com/home.htm

Well, the above choke/ammo combos appear to work rather well. I think this combo is worth a try and certainly far more affordable than the Rhino/Nitro combos.

Agarr had pointed me in the direction of the Indian Creek Choke Tubes.. .Looks like he was on the money.

Nice group that one got! What distance was that shot taken?

 

[Randy]

When you say Winchester #5's, Randy, which ones? I picked up a Winchester catalog last week. There is a SuperX, Supreme and Supreme Elite, etc.


Dang...just checked out truglo's website...they are showing three different types of turkey chokes that they make. This stuff can get complicated as heck.

I am shooting the winchester supreme elite and this choke:

http://www.truglosights.com/content/prod_choke_tubes/gobble_extreme_stopper.asp

 

[Gadget]

Delton it depends on the bore size of your barrel as to what contriction will be best for your gun.
comp-n-chokes are my favorite. http://www.comp-n-choke.com/

Truglo make a gobblestopper and a strutstopper, I think one is ported and the other is not.

Another question. On the chokes y'all are shooting, what diameters?

I'm thinking going with a TruGlo .665 I think it is... I went to the TruGlo website, they have like 6-7 different ones, which ones are y'all shooting?

 

[Handgunner]

Delton it depends on the bore size of your barrel as to what contriction will be best for your gun.

comp-n-chokes are my favorite. http://www.comp-n-choke.com/

Truglo make a gobblestopper and a strutstopper, I think one is ported and the other is not.

How do I go about finding that out? It's a Remington 870, 26" barrel...

I'm sending it to Gun Docc, he should know the right combinations for it. But told me to go ahead and get the choke tube for it...

Am I complicating this thing WAY too much?

 

[Gadget]

Gun Docc is the one to talk to. Ask him about Comp-n-choke he knows those guys.

Your gun has a .730 bore. check it out.http://www.comp-n-choke.com/Chokes.html

My Benelli has a .723 bore; so for comparison if you use a .660 choke, it would be the same as me using a .653. I actually use a .655 in my SBE II and get a great pattern, so a .660 choke would be about what you want.

Despite this difference Truglo uses the same diameter choke for both guns, which is not right. You need different sizes to get the same results, mine tigher yours more open. They even use the same size for a Browning with a .741 bore despite a .018 diameter difference. This is the difference between using an improved cylinder and a full choke when dove hunting.........

How do I go about finding that out? It's a Remington 870, 26" barrel...

I'm sending it to Gun Docc, he should know the right combinations for it. But told me to go ahead and get the choke tube for it...

Am I complicating this thing WAY too much?

 

[Handgunner]

According to that chart, the Remingtons have .730

Am I looking at the right chart?

 

[Gadget]

Yep, so you see it's very easy. If your bore is .730 and your choke .660 you have a .070 constriction. In comparison a standard full choke is .035. So a .70 is considered a XXX full, an X for every .010 over .035

Did that help you out? Read the Comp-n-choke web site, Charlie is very knowledgeable. Look at this chart too http://comp-n-choke.com/Hunting.html

According to that chart, the Remingtons have .730

Am I looking at the right chart?

 

[Handgunner]

Ok, I think I got it now.

Bore diameter, subtract the choke constriction, gives you the new bore diameter. Which is basically what we're shooting for...

Do I have it right now?

Sorry for the headache, just trying to understand it.

 

[Ricochet]

Agarr had pointed me in the direction of the Indian Creek Choke Tubes.. .Looks like he was on the money.

Nice group that one got! What distance was that shot taken?

40 yards (see links for more info).

 

[Gadget]

I've heard of em, they're doing something right!

Interesting, the quote says he was using a Browning BPS but the target says he's using a Browning Citori. Not sure if that's his target in the pic, has his name on the bottom.

NWTF Still Target Championship Winners:

Steve Conover, of Jamestown, Ky., won the 12-gauge Hunter division, shooting a Browning BPS with an Indian Creek .650 choke tube and Hevi 13 ammunition. Mike Ponder, of Altenburg, Mo., won the 12-gauge Open division, shooting a custom-built shotgun, an Indian Creek .640 choke tube and Hevi 13 ammunition.

http://www.nwtf.org/nwtf_newsroom/press_releases.php?id=11999
http://www.hevi-shot.com/products_turkey_specials.html
http://www.indiancreekss.com/home.htm

Well, the above choke/ammo combos appear to work rather well. I think this combo is worth a try and certainly far more affordable than the Rhino/Nitro combos.

 

[Ricochet]

I've heard of em, they're doing something right!

Interesting, the quote says he was using a Browning BPS but the target says he's using a Browning Citori. Not sure if that's his target in the pic, has his name on the bottom.

Ah, good eye! He has scored a record 45 twice at different events (8/26/06 & 10/7/06) and apparently with 2 different Browning shotguns. Here is the 10/7/06 photo with the BPS (click on it for full size): http://www.nwtf.org/nwtf_newsroom/images/Conover_print.jpg

 

[Gadget]

Yeah that is a good example of a "blown out" pattern. Of course it's good for card and target shooting but not for Turkey hunting.

I bought a Truglo Strut Stopper Extreme choke for my Benelli with a .643 diameter, was too tight, I was getting blown out patterns and fliers. Went up to a .655 with the Comp n Choke and made a huge difference, nice even pattern. I don't know why they made a line of chokes that tight ??? They use the same .643 on Browning with a .741 diameter, that's almost a .100 contriction....... way too tight for that gun, even for target shooting!! Truglo's is even tighter than what this guy used for his target shooting.

Ah, good eye! He has scored a record 45 twice at different events (8/26/06 & 10/7/06) and apparently with 2 different Browning shotguns. Here is the 10/7/06 photo with the BPS (click on it for full size): http://www.nwtf.org/nwtf_newsroom/images/Conover_print.jpg

 

[BgDadyBeardBustr]

Delton I have the same gun you are getting on the 25th. I use an HS Strut Undertaker .665 choke with Winchester Extended Range #6 shot in 3 and 1/2 inch. I had the barrel ported and the forcing cone lengthened as well as adding a must - Limb Saver/R3 pad. You want a 50 yard gun I would not be afraid to take the shot.
Good Luck, Tim

 

[NottelyBILL]

I have a question

Ok, let's say you can only put 2 oz. of shot in your shell. Now when you start mixing shot sizes seems to me the game changes. Say 4 and 6, well the 4 are going to go futher than the 6's so if you have an ounce of 6's then on the long shots you have reduced your changes by reducing the number of 4's. I could be wrong but it seems that way to me. I have found that good old 5's do the best all around job and I know exactly what to expect at 40 yards.