When Are Men Justified

[BanjoPicker]

The words" justify," "justification", are used 64 times in the Bible and not once is it stated that justification comes before sanctification, either in the initial act of making holy or in the process of sanctification and justification throughout life. Not once does the Bible state there is a time element between these two phases of salvation. Just the opposite is taught in Scripture. Men are justified:

When they are washed and sanctified: "Such were some of you; but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified . . . by the Spirt of our God 1 Cor. 6:9-11. If there is any time between sanctification and justification, it is the same length of time between a judge in court saying "not guilty" and the man being automatically justified in the eyes of the law again. Justification comes immediately after washing and sanctification, and at the same time..

When they repent: "God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you that man went down to his house justified" Lk. 18:13,14.

When they believe: "By him all that believe are justified [made not guilty] from all things [including inbred sin] from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses" Acts 13:38, 39.

When they are redeemed by faith in the blood: " being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus . . . through faith in His blood, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins" Rom. 3:24-30; 5:1; Gal. 2:16, 17; 3:24.

When they get into grace: "Being justified by His grace" Titus 3:4-7; "By whom also we have access by faith into this grace" Rom. 5:1, 2; 3:24, 25; Titus 2:11-14.

When they accept the call to holiness: "whom he called, them also justified" Rom. 8:30.

When they are regenerated, saved and renewed: "He saved us by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost . . . being justified by His grace" Titus 3:4-7.

When they are brought to Christ: "The law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith" Gal. 3:24.

When we are reconciled: "being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him, for if, when we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life" Rom. 5:9-11; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; Col. 1:20-23.

When they have all sins blotted out and remitted: "I am he that blotted out thy transgressions . . . thy sins . . . that thy mayest be justified" Isa. 43:25, 26; Acts 13:38, 39; 1 Cor. 6:9-11.

Justification is spoken of as the last phase of salvation that makes holy in the initial stage of sanctification, that makes clear before God, and that clears the record of everything God has against us Rom. 3:24-30; 5:1-11; Acts 13:38, 39; 1 Cor. 6:9-11. It is spoken of as the final settlement of differences between men Job. 11:2; 13:18; 27:5; 32:2; 33:32; Prov. 17:15; Isa. 5:23; Lk. 10:29; 16:15. It is used of men justifying God; that is, clearing God of all blame Ps. 51:4; Lk. 7:29; Rom. 3:26. It is used of people who justify themselves when they think they are not guilty Jer. 3:11; Ezek. 16:51, 52; Job. 9:20; 13:18; 32:2; Lk. 16:15. Thus justification of man by God simply means that when God washes and sanctifies a sinner, He declares him not guilty 1 Cor. 6:9-11; Acts 13:38, 39. God could not declare any man not guilty who has not been sanctified and cleansed from all sin, including inbred sin. As long as the old man or the spirit of the devil is in a man he is still guilty and condemned.

 

[gemcgrew]

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved."

"To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved."

"Accepted in the beloved."

Justified in Christ... from eternity. Not dependent upon us in any way... in time.

"It is God that justifieth."

"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him."

 

[hummerpoo]

But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.




God does as He wishes/desires, calls things as He wishes/desires and is beholden to no man to either explain nor even inform him of what He does, or is doing. He is not subject to our reasoning, our preferences, histories, even our knowing and understanding, and He need not suffer His word as a thing by which He could be bound...

Yet, He wills to make Himself understood, but not as any might understand as necessity by precept upon precept and line upon line.

Our God is a consuming fire.

IMHO

And "yet" is burned away to smoke, without ash, by the light of God's greciously given faith.

 

[BanjoPicker]

PROOF THAT SANCTIFICATION COMES BEFORE JUSTIFICATION

Paul definitely states that a man is washed and sanctified before he is justified Are we to agree that the Holy Spirit speaking here through Paul made a blunder in putting sanctification before justification? 1 Cor. 6:11. Does not God know the true order of His own work?

 

[BanjoPicker]

JUSTIFICATION NATURALLY FOLLOWS SANCTIFICATION, EVEN IF THERE IS A FACTION OF A SECOND BETWEEN THEM.

For sanctification is the setting apart of a man to be made holy by God and justification is the act of declaring the man holy after he is sanctified. Sanctification is a change of service from Satan to God Acts 26:18, while justification is a change of state from sin to holiness, and a new standing before God. Sanctification in the initial stage is that of separation and cleansing the sinner who sanctifies and separates himself from sin and turns to God. Justification in the initial act, is that of declaring a sinner righteous. Sanctification makes the sinner not guilty, and justification declares him not guilty. Sanctification is more the act of a man being made righteous and holy by separation unto God, and justification is more the act of acceptance of a man as being holy and a full citizen of Heaven.

 

[BanjoPicker]

God cannot justify a man until He has sanctified and cleansed him of all sin. He could not legally declare a man not guilty who is still guilty of the least sin, much less should he have the old man, the biggest part of sin, in him. God cannot tolerate half-heartedness in choice and service. He requires our all, in obeying the moral law. He accepts nothing as virtue but entire obedience to His law. Any act contrary to His law is sin, and inbred sin is no exception. He could not justify a man who is not free from inbred sin and who is not perfectly holy as far as the sin-question is concerned. He cannot justify a sinner who renders only partial obedience. He would be disqualified as the Mora Governor if he upheld and justified a man who still had inbred sin or any other sin in him.
The law must be repealed that condemns inbred sin before God can justify one who is still condemned by being under the control of this sin. Which is the very devil himself working in the children of disobedience Eph. 2:1-3. God could not justify a man who is still bound by the devil and who is still a slave to sin and Satan. One is still in this state who has not been made free from the law of sin and death and who has not had the old man crucified and destroy from dominating his life as in Rom. 6, 7, and 8. If the sinner comes to God to be cleansed from all sin and has consecrated to the limit to get rid of all sin, and God does not do His part then He is responsible for sin remaining in man. God would then become a party to man continuing in sin, and this cannot be. God cleanses from all sin when he saves, sanctifies, and justifies a man 1 John. 1:7-9; 3:7-10; 5:1-18; 2 Cor. 5:17.

 

[RegularJoe]

God cannot justify a man until He has sanctified and cleansed him of all sin....

Well put.

 

[formula1]

All have been found guilty in God's courtroom. Yet our debt has been paid in full!

Colossians 2
13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

 

[BanjoPicker]

In civil courts a transgressor of the law cannot be justified again in the eyes of the law until he has paid the full penalty or has been declared not guilty. Getting rid of all that the law has against a man is the first thing, then he is automatically justified. Son with a sinner, getting rid of all that God has against him is the first thing, and this is call sanctification. Declaring one holy and just in the sight of God is the next thing, and this is what is call justification. When one is in this justified state it is as if God had never had anything against him. He is as clear before the moral law as one who has been made clear before civil law.

 

[BanjoPicker]

To say that the old man is still in the justified man is to say that God does not hold a man guilty of having the old man or the devil in him. If he is "not guilty" in this case then there is no inbred sin to cleanse by a future work of grace. If he does have inbred sin during the days, months, or years between the two works of grace then he could not possibly be justified until the last work of grace that cleanses from sin. If he could be justified while having inbred sin or the devil in him then he is held responsible for this as God does not hold it against him , and therefore there is no need of ever getting rid of it. Hence there is no need of ever getting a special work of grace to get rid of the biggest part of sin in the believer or to get rid of something God never holds against him.

 

[BanjoPicker]

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sin, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. meaning

Sanctification is by:
1. The Father (Jude 1; Jn. 10:36)
2. Christ (Acts 26:18; 1 Cor. 1:2, 30)
3. The Holy Ghost (Rom. 15:16; 1 Cor. 6:11; 2 Th. 2:13; 1 Pet. 1:2)
4. The Word of God (Jn. 15:3; 17:19; 2 Th2:13; Eph. 5:26; 1 Tim. 4:5)
5. The atonement (Heb. 10:10-14, 29)
6. Faith (Acts 26:18; Eph. 2:8, 9)

 

[gemcgrew]

Sanctification is by:
1. The Father (Jude 1; Jn. 10:36)
2. Christ (Acts 26:18; 1 Cor. 1:2, 30)
3. The Holy Ghost (Rom. 15:16; 1 Cor. 6:11; 2 Th. 2:13; 1 Pet. 1:2)
4. The Word of God (Jn. 15:3; 17:19; 2 Th2:13; Eph. 5:26; 1 Tim. 4:5)
5. The atonement (Heb. 10:10-14, 29)
6. Faith (Acts 26:18; Eph. 2:8, 9)

All Christ

 

[BanjoPicker]

All Christ

Yep, and that is just what I meant Sanctifications comes before Justification.
And post # 6 proves it.

 

[gemcgrew]

God cannot justify a man until He has sanctified and cleansed him of all sin.

Well put.

Is it "well put"? Can there be an "until" with God?

 

[RegularJoe]

Is it "well put"? Can there be an "until" with God?

I was not saved 'until' I accepted Christ?

 

[brutally honest]

… I accepted Christ?

 

[formula1]

We are all going away from God from birth!
When we see Him or more accurately when He sees us, He turns us to a new path and it is glorious.

Accepting does apply to this: that until it was revealed to me and I accepted who I was without Him, I could never be made new in Him!

 

[gemcgrew]

I was not saved 'until' I accepted Christ?

Not sure what you are asking. I was not addressing "until" as it applies to us within time.

 

[RegularJoe]

Not sure what you are asking. I was not addressing "until" as it applies to us within time.

With all due respect : ), no further comment ~ because I am not tracking with you.

 

[Madman]

Justification is formally and instrumentally caused by baptism, justification is simultaneously declarative and imperative, both what God declares and what God does in the soul at Baptism and after.

Bishop Chandler Jones