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[Nicodemus]

Just for recreational purposes. I have never truly lived "off the grid" being a H/G that's for sure. But I do believe that the more we do things (no matter what activity we are doing) the way that mankind has naturally done them, the better it is for our minds & bodies. For example not eating so many processed foods. I try to eat a pretty large percentage of my foods in their original state, like whole fruits & vegetables & eggs for example. For exercise I walk (with a rucksack *) and lift weights mostly with kettlebells ** and body-weight resistance like pushups & pullups ***.

* walking (or running) is about the most natural movement humans can do.
Only humans can do it for extended distances and are bodies have evolved to be PERFECT for it. Doctors have studied Sardinian shepherds who walk constantly all day everyday - and eat simple foods - and their overall health is well above that of their city living/sedentary peers. Walking with a rucksack makes sense because early humans had to pack killed animals or shelter materials around while keeping their hands free to carry weapons or even more critters & rocks or whatever.

** Kettle bells provide a very natural "plane of motion" so your joints are not put into positions & leverages that compromise them. In other very natural body movements. Machines force your body into awkward & dangerous positions much of the time. Yes, lifting rocks and logs is great too, but at 60 years old I'm just not as coordinated as I was at 30, so safety has to be my #1 priority.

*** Body weight exercises the purest form of exercise going back even before humans. Pulling your body up or hanging on tree branches for example was about as useful and natural as you could get!

Sidenote Balance Of Nature probably does provide you with vitamins & minerals. But you get fiber and bulk from eating the fruits + vegetable in their whole form, which promotes faster waste processing through your body (at my age I need all the help pooping that I can get) and the bulk helps keep you feeling full so you might not want to eat more calories from snacking than you need.

A simple "yes" or "no" would suffice.

 

[WaltL1]

That is why its important to preseve the things we have learned.

Apparently you have more confidence in humans than I do.

 

[Nicodemus]

Apparently you have more confidence in humans than I do.

I don`t have confidence in but a couple of folks, but I have 100 percent confidence in myself and my abilities.

 

[oldfella1962]

I question how long a "rebalance" would last before we went right back to doing the same things that got us here. In a couple of generations the rebalance would seem normal and not important and we would get right back on the same path of over indulgence.

Humans ABSOLUTUELY have selective memory! We will totally forget any life lessons we should have learned and taken to heart, and drive heck-bent for leather into a pile of our own toxic poo if we remember it as being exciting or fun.

 

[Israel]

I ate a 1/2 pound hamburger yesterday at a restaurant I believe I have been to only one other time. All that protein! It made me so so smart. Cause along with the fries, as I took that final lump of seared beef threatening to slide outta that last bit of bun, cheese, and bacon a new thought came to me. At least new in that day.

I shared it with my wife. I fairly belched out "I think I ate too much". (She was struggling with a Gyro that she had long before submitted to as not conquerable by hand, she had resorted to tool use almost from the get go) I was observing/participating in ideas in action, ideas expressed! "We" scientists gather what we may when we may.

Shakespeare may have said "all the world's a stage" but we know something well beyond his stilted and historically pubescent musings..."all the world's a lab". We ain't ole timey, we all grown up an thoroughly modern.

Suddenly new ideas came to the fore, even in rebuff of those previously held in planning and/or intents. Again, we scientists often discover in our experimentation that the "old ways" must make way for the new in freshly uncovered information.

"Forget about Walmart" showed up. "Let's just go home" followed shortly thereafter. (The protein was indeed having its way in this Vesuvian display of bold new thoughts, erupting as a new frontier discovered we could populate at will) Finally spewing to the grandest conclusion of all as a thing beheld in mind, but not yet actualized.

A glittering city beckoning from yet a distance. But nonetheless glowingly tempting and begging now to be named. And I did. (I'm bold like that) "Nap time" I called it, rising from my chair in a newly found (and additional) gravitas that threatened to plunk me back down to its tufted cushion. But, I (being bold) pressed on.

(Ha ha! you must also get those notifications "new messages have been posted since you loaded this page", right?) So I glance up and see obesity being discussed. Or it is OB City? Did we discover nap time? Invent it? Give birth to it? What are the very origins of "Nap Time"? Is it just a product of unbridled imagination? Is it even...real? And when I am in it, how could I even know? A lot of stuff seems real there.

At least till exit. Where I think. Things are real.

Is consciousness even "one" of them?

 

[WaltL1]

Are you a primitives skills and old ways practioner?

I occasionaly use a match to light the charcoal instead of a Bic lighter.
Does that count?

 

[oldfella1962]

It was mentioned that mostly only a certain mindset post on this
AAA forum. With that being said, why do some Christians only post on this forum and some of the other forums when it comes to highly debatable topics such as evolution, etc.
Why not go upstairs and visit those forums as well? I don't really care where you hang out, just trying to understand all of us forumites a little better.

Do NOT post upstairs if you aren't a believer! I did that when I accidently commented on something that I thought was in AA&A and deeply offended folks. I saw something in the "similar threads" section & didn't realize that "similar threads" includes all forums. Lesson learned the hard way!

True though everyone is more than welcome in the AA&A forum. The more variety, the better. Nobody knows everything, but everyone knows something.

 

[WaltL1]

Humans ABSOLUTUELY have selective memory! We will totally forget any life lessons we should have learned and taken to heart, and drive heck-bent for leather into a pile of our own toxic poo if we remember it as being exciting or fun.

That old phrase "history repeats itself" came about for a reason.

 

[livinoutdoors]

A simple "yes" or "no" would suffice.

Good luck!

 

[livinoutdoors]

That old phrase "history repeats itself" came about for a reason.

It does and most likely will, but if folks dont try then for sure it will.

 

[livinoutdoors]

Do NOT post upstairs if you aren't a believer! I did that when I accidently commented on something that I thought was in AA&A and deeply offended folks. I saw something in the "similar threads" section & didn't realize that "similar threads" includes all forums. Lesson learned the hard way!

True though everyone is more than welcome in the AA&A forum. The more variety, the better. Nobody knows everything, but everyone knows something.

I post in here because this is the place to argue and debate. Upstairs they are discussing within what they believe. I see no reason to interrupt that. If i have something to add along those lines i will. In other words, i dont yell at folks in the food plot forum about government tyranny.

 

[Israel]

I occasionaly use a match to light the charcoal instead of a Bic lighter.
Does that count?

And as you may read from above, I kinda engulf my food like a blobby amoeba if that's "ole timey" enuff. In fact blobby flesh bag better describers me than "homo erectus" or the even more miasapplicable to me "homo sapiens".

What is the meaning of Homo sapiens?


Homo sapiens, (Latin: “wise man”) the species to which all modern human beings belong. Homo sapiens is one of several species grouped into the genus Homo, but it is the only one that is not extinct. See also human evolution. human being ( Homo sapiens )

Apparently some seem quite comfortable wearing it. (But look what got to make the term up!)

It's kinda like when folks say "the brain is the central and most important organ of the body" (but guess which organ controls the mouth for saying! Talk about a bias!)

 

[oldfella1962]

A simple "yes" or "no" would suffice.

Sorry about that. A simple yes or no is okay sometimes. But most of the time "yes" or "no" doesn't fully explain the question. The way my brain is wired I cannot stand to be misunderstood.
Thus nearly every question makes we want to say "well that depends" before I say yes or no, because what you consider "primitive skills and old ways" might be different than what I consider primitive skills and old ways.

 

[livinoutdoors]

But what does the word yes mean anyway. At its root it can mean a variety of things based on the origin of th........

 

[WaltL1]

It does and most likely will, but if folks dont try then for sure it will.

Thats true.
I wonder though if humans are even wired to go backwards. Seems pretty much everything we do is geared to what we perceive as "moving forward".
Better this, more of that, nicer this.....

 

[Nicodemus]

Sorry about that. A simple yes or no is okay sometimes. But most of the time "yes" or "no" doesn't fully explain the question. The way my brain is wired I cannot stand to be misunderstood.
Thus nearly every question makes we want to say "well that depends" before I say yes or no, because what you consider "primitive skills and old ways" might be different than what I consider primitive skills and old ways.

Pre 1840.

 

[bullethead]

This was a very long winded way for the author to blame obesity on evolution. If humans had a weak digestive system to start out with, that starved us of nutrition, then how were we able to get to the tools and fire stage? Seen any other animals cookin a steak? On the flip side of that hogs and other animals have been eatin cooked food that humans provided them for centuries. Why are hogs not driving cars now? And, to top it all off, if other animals have the ability to access proper nutrition without fire, then why did their brains not grow large and give them intelligence on the human level. I will also add that modern nutrion science seems to show a vast array of health problems from eating overly processed foods. So, in the modern world we are seeing what happens to the body when it gets too much.

If you truly think about humans in a wide scope, very few are actually Super Intelligent. The majority of humans bask in and off of the capabilities and accomplishments of others. If the cushy society and lifestyle as we know ended for the next 150 years there would be a mass extinction of so called "smart" humans who cannot balance a checkbook let alone fend for themselves in any way. Most of these brilliant "people" think meat comes from a store.
I know that despite me living for the past Half Century, if I was sent back in time for the sole purpose of directing our past society to build the first TV or Computer from absolute scratch neither would have happened. For all that I know I don't really know Jack and I, you, we rely on the smarts and abilities of others without ever knowing how to do it ourselves.
The 9yr old who graduates High school and finishes 6yrs of college by age 11 is the upper eschelon of human brain usage.
When we look around walmart and survey the crowd realize that most of those are average and half of the population is even dumber than that. Yeah "we" all think we teter on that upper eschelon line but we don't some are above average in certain areas and skills of expertise but lag way behind in others.

Those pigs ain't thinking about driving cars because they do not possess those parts of the brain that even the dumbest humans have...who if left to those humans, still couldn't design a car. And I ain't driving a Silverado beause I made it from the available materials in the woods behind my house either. My big brainiac moment was to figure out that I need to work to get money to exchange that money for a Truck that a team of people above my thought scale figured out how to make. Because if left to me...I'd be hoofin it in squirrel moccassins and sending this post by pigeon hoping it gets to you.
My guess is that 90% of civilized society exists from the brains of the other 10%. The smart figure things out, the medium smart work to see it through, and the below average sit back, don't contribute, and reap the rewards off the rest. It is directly corralated to what we have seen all our lives.

 

[oldfella1962]

https://www.amnh.org/explore/science-topics/microbiome-health/fire-cooking-human-evolution

Because the evolution of complicated animals takes so much time that we can't (within our individual and maybe collected human lifespans) notice that it's happening. The only questions we can ask are about what happened to other species in the past, and 99 percent of the evidence is gone. So we might be able to figure out what happened, but the "why" is always just an educated guess. That IMHO is where religion and science are in the same boat. Neither god nor nature owes us an explanation for the question of "why" and only humans (as far as we know) can ask that question.

 

[WaltL1]

And as you may read from above, I kinda engulf my food like a blobby amoeba if that's "ole timey" enuff. In fact blobby flesh bag better describers me than "homo erectus" or the even more miasapplicable to me "homo sapiens".


Apparently some seem quite comfortable wearing it. (But look what got to make the term up!)

It's kinda like when folks say "the brain is the central and most important organ of the body" (but guess which organ controls the mouth for saying! Talk about a bias!)

Israel The Blobby Flesh Bag.
Has a nice ring to it

 

[livinoutdoors]

If you truly think about humans in a wide scope, very few are actually Super Intelligent. The majority of humans bask in and off of the capabilities and accomplishments of others. If the cushy society and lifestyle as we know ended for the next 150 years there would be a mass extinction of so called "smart" humans who cannot balance a checkbook let alone fend for themselves in any way. Most of these brilliant "people" think meat comes from a store.
I know that despite me living for the past Half Century, if I was sent back in time for the sole purpose of directing our past society to build the first TV or Computer from absolute scratch neither would have happened. For all that I know I don't really know Jack and I, you, we rely on the smarts and abilities of others without ever knowing how to do it ourselves.
The 9yr old who graduates High school and finishes 6yrs of college by age 11 is the upper eschelon of human brain usage.
When we look around walmart and survey the crowd realize that most of those are average and half of the population is even dumber than that. Yeah "we" all think we teter on that upper eschelon line but we don't some are above average in certain areas and skills of expertise but lag way behind in others.

Those pigs ain't thinking about driving cars because they do not possess those parts of the brain that even the dumbest humans have...who if left to those humans, still couldn't design a car. And I ain't driving a Silverado beause I made it from the available materials in the woods behind my house either. My big brainiac moment was to figure out that I need to work to get money to exchange that money for a Truck that a team of people above my thought scale figured out how to make. Because if left to me...I'd be hoofin it in squirrel moccassins and sending this post by pigeon hoping it gets to you.
My guess is that 90% of civilized society exists from the brains of the other 10%. The smart figure things out, the medium smart work to see it through, and the below average sit back, don't contribute, and reap the rewards off the rest. It is directly corralated to what we have seen all our lives.

Makes ya wonder whos smart.