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Gator89
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The interwebz...
Gator89
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Q public has Property you own, mailing address, etc.
Madman
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They tapped into your smart TV.
j_seph
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Send them back a KJV bible
Gator89
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Or the electric meter.
Madman
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Or your smart phone
Madman
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JW recognize KJV as an authorized version for their use. It does not have the later changes they made.
As where John says, "The Word was with God and was God", they changed the translation to "The Word was with God and was A God"
Artfuldodger
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What does it mean to be in the bosom of the Father? Also, when you think about it no one can see a spirit. God being spirit, I don't see how anyone can ever see God. Maybe it's not literal as with eyes but perhaps "spiritually?"
In an illustration, Jesus spoke of a beggar named Lazarus who was carried at his death to “the bosom position of Abraham,” and John refers to Jesus as being in “the bosom position with the Father.”
The expression “bosom position” alludes to one’s reclining in front of another person on the same couch at a meal.
John, in describing the very special position of favor enjoyed by Jesus, said that he was in “the bosom position” of his Father.
As far as seeing god I think you are right.
As “no man has seeen god and lived”
But we can learn about him, his qualities
Love, justice, wisdom, power and more
We do that through our study of the Bible
The expression “bosom position” alludes to one’s reclining in front of another person on the same couch at a meal.
John, in describing the very special position of favor enjoyed by Jesus, said that he was in “the bosom position” of his Father.
As far as seeing god I think you are right.
As “no man has seeen god and lived”
But we can learn about him, his qualities
Love, justice, wisdom, power and more
We do that through our study of the Bible
Jack Ryan
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Madman
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Not if you are a trinitarian, believe what Scripture has said and what the church has taught for 2000 years.
If you want to believe in multiple gods, so be it.
j_seph
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NE GA Pappy
Mr. Pappy
It doesn't bother me in the least if it is interpreted 'was with God, and was God' or 'was a God'.
What inquiring minds want to know is this. Is the Word a true God, or a false God?
Detailed Research will help with many many discrepancies.
For one there is a lot of accurate information out today based on archeological finds that we’re not available 500 years ago
Many transcripts have been discovered since the writing of the KJV ( Dead Sea scrolls) and others that shed light on the entire bible and also correction.
For example;
It is noteworthy that John 5:4, which said that an angel disturbed the water, is not found in highly regarded ancient Greek manuscripts, such as the fourth-century Codex Sinaiticus
At Bethzatha, however, Jesus cured a man who had been sick for 38 years. Without even entering the pool, the man was instantly healed.
Based on those master texts, it is evident that some verses of the Greek Scriptures found in older translations, such as the King James Version, were actually additions made by later copyists and were never part of the inspired Scriptures.
However, because the verse division generally accepted in Bible translations was already established in the 16th century, the omission of these verses now creates gaps in the verse numbering in most Bibles.
Mark 7:16; The verses are Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16;9:44, 46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4;Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:7; 28:29; and Romans 16:24.
In revised editions those omitted verses are indicated by a footnote at the location of the omission.
Regarding the long conclusion for Mark 16 (verses 9-20), the short conclusion for Mark 16, and the wording found at John 7:53–8:11, research shows, and newly found scrolls show that none of these verses were included in the original manuscripts.
Just a few examples of why verses may be omitted... new information, more accurate scrolls,
For one there is a lot of accurate information out today based on archeological finds that we’re not available 500 years ago
Many transcripts have been discovered since the writing of the KJV ( Dead Sea scrolls) and others that shed light on the entire bible and also correction.
For example;
It is noteworthy that John 5:4, which said that an angel disturbed the water, is not found in highly regarded ancient Greek manuscripts, such as the fourth-century Codex Sinaiticus
At Bethzatha, however, Jesus cured a man who had been sick for 38 years. Without even entering the pool, the man was instantly healed.
Based on those master texts, it is evident that some verses of the Greek Scriptures found in older translations, such as the King James Version, were actually additions made by later copyists and were never part of the inspired Scriptures.
However, because the verse division generally accepted in Bible translations was already established in the 16th century, the omission of these verses now creates gaps in the verse numbering in most Bibles.
Mark 7:16; The verses are Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16;9:44, 46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4;Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:7; 28:29; and Romans 16:24.
In revised editions those omitted verses are indicated by a footnote at the location of the omission.
Regarding the long conclusion for Mark 16 (verses 9-20), the short conclusion for Mark 16, and the wording found at John 7:53–8:11, research shows, and newly found scrolls show that none of these verses were included in the original manuscripts.
Just a few examples of why verses may be omitted... new information, more accurate scrolls,
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