My days as a fat slob were costly

[Danuwoa]

Cut the white stuff and it will fall off of you, man.

 

[transfixer]

Well, statins might be useless...there are debates on both sides of the issue.

But BP meds are important. You don't want to have high BP and wake up one day and not be able to walk because you had a stroke. Blood pressure is serious.

I take very low dose BP meds, but nothing like I used to take, watch your salt intake and your blood pressure won't get out of hand unless you have some other underlying issue,

4yrs ago I made a lifestyle change when it comes to my diet, I no longer eat ANYTHING with added sugar, whatever is in the food naturally is okay within reason, with the exception of some fruits, I don't eat starchy foods period , if I eat bread its whole wheat only , I eat sausage for breakfast at least 5 days a week , scrambled eggs usually 3 days a week, eat rotisserie chicken and lean beef for lunch or dinner every day of the week, occasionally I'll eat tuna fish , I still eat cheese in moderation, I eat sugar free oatmeal cookies as a snack, my lab work last month my LDL was 73, and my total cholesterol was 145, my A1C was 5.1 , and back at the end of 2019 my A1C was over 6 , if my LDL ever gets below 55 or so I'm going to quit taking the low dose statins that I still take, as there are many harmful effects of statins after long term use, Diabetes being one of them

 

[livinoutdoors]

Cut the white stuff and it will fall off of you, man.

You mean like the stuff you get at parties? I thought that kept you skinny? Just what i heard anyway.

 

[livinoutdoors]

Eating whole real actual foods is a good foundation. Meat. Veggies. Etc. If you eat that as your base you can get away with junk at times. I will say the less junkfood you eat the weirder it tastes to me anyway. Dont really like the taste of it. Positive feedback loop as it were.

 

[Danuwoa]

You mean like the stuff you get at parties? I thought that kept you skinny? Just what i heard anyway.

Probably a good idea to cut that too if you’re using it.

 

[Stob]

Good for you! I'm going through the same thing right now. Unfortunately, I've been on blood pressure meds since my mid 20's despite working out 3-4 days a week, weighing 180 pounds, and running 3 miles 2 days a week. My doctor believes it could be genetic or just something odd about the way I am.

Unfortunately in my 30's, I let myself go, gained a lot of weight and now I'm paying for it. But, I'm making some changes in diet and exercise too with my doctors help.

Same. HBP and gray hair in my 20's. I am learning that these diet's require you to eat from the garden and not from the grocer as much as you can.

Learning to make whole wheat bread was awesome.

Gotta offset the beer intake.

 

[poohbear]

Got to cut the carbs or zero carbs if you can do it and eat the fattiest meats you can not the leanest

 

[35 Whelen]

I don't drink any soda, haven't for years. Water only. Glass of red wine occasionally with dinner, normally with venison.

 

[sbroadwell]

Well I’ve got my thinking on this. If I just go to get bloodwork out of the blue it’s terrible. I found out that if I go on a strict low carb diet, absolutely no sugar, for several weeks then the bloodwork is great. So I do that every year before my physical.
Now I’m on the diet, got the tests next week. I eat pretty much only meat, eggs and cheese. All the fat I want, and my lipids are good. So these pretty much confirms to me that sugar and carbs are the problem, not fat.
One thing I do take that I’m gonna stop is Crestor, a statin for cholesterol. One side affect is muscle damage, and it’s started with me. I’ve got a hamstring and a back muscle that feels like they’ve torn loose. So I’m stopping it. Would honestly rather just die from cholesterol than not even be able to move around.

 

[transfixer]

Well I’ve got my thinking on this. If I just go to get bloodwork out of the blue it’s terrible. I found out that if I go on a strict low carb diet, absolutely no sugar, for several weeks then the bloodwork is great. So I do that every year before my physical.
Now I’m on the diet, got the tests next week. I eat pretty much only meat, eggs and cheese. All the fat I want, and my lipids are good. So these pretty much confirms to me that sugar and carbs are the problem, not fat.
One thing I do take that I’m gonna stop is Crestor, a statin for cholesterol. One side affect is muscle damage, and it’s started with me. I’ve got a hamstring and a back muscle that feels like they’ve torn loose. So I’m stopping it. Would honestly rather just die from cholesterol than not even be able to move around.

Obviously I don't know your medical history, but check into Nattokinase, I've been taking it for months now, it has been proven in medical studies to reduce/prevent blood clots and reduce arterial plaque, and also lower cholesterol levels, its an enzyme , not a drug , and its for real !

 

[sbroadwell]

Obviously I don't know your medical history, but check into Nattokinase, I've been taking it for months now, it has been proven in medical studies to reduce/prevent blood clots and reduce arterial plaque, and also lower cholesterol levels, its an enzyme , not a drug , and its for real !

Thanks, I’ll check that out.

 

[jbogg]

Yeah, I know exactly where you're coming from because that sounds very similar to me.
Despite my weight, I got good reports for 20+ years. Fortunately my cholesterol continues to be good and I gave up excess sugar years ago, but I am starting some meds to help my A1C and to lose weight. Once I get down to a better weight, I can come off of them so long as I don't gain weight again.
I'm pretty much giving up bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, and those type of carbs for a long while. My doctor said she doesn't want me going full keto because it can cause high cholesterol and she doesn't want me messing up my good cholesterol numbers. She said that if I just give up those things and eat as I normally do with more vegetable substitutions, I'll be fine.
Good substitutions are key. Fortunately, there's not hardly any vegetables that I don't like.

I wouldn’t get caught up in worrying about your cholesterol numbers. Cholesterol is a single marker for cardiovascular disease, and a poor one at that. If you’re giving up bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes, you’re doing the hard part of keto already. I would recommend giving keto a try for 60 to 90 days and then have your blood work done once again. You will likely be amazed. But in addition to checking cholesterol, and A1c, you also need to be looking at C Peptides, fasting insulin, and lots of other markers that show a much more complete picture.

I can’t stress the importance of almost everybody with a few exceptions getting off statins. Dementia, and memory loss is a significant side effect that many people on statins will experience as they get older.

 

[jbogg]

You don't have to get all into exercise, all that will do is make you more hungry ! depending on what numbers were out of whack, cholesterol or blood sugar ? you can start turning it around in a month or so if you are determined, but you have to be determined

Exercise, especially strength training is every bit as important as nutrition especially as we age. Muscle loss becomes significant as we age unless you do some strength training to offset that loss. Added muscle, not only allows your body to uptake more glucose out of your bloodstream, but added strength and mobility makes a huge difference in reducing the chance of a fall which is often times the reason many people become sedentary. And that inactivity leads to many of the metabolic illnesses being discussed.

Dr. Peter Atias’s new book “Outlive” talks about healthspan, versus lifespan. None of us wants our health span to end 10 or 15 years before our lifespan, since those 10 or 15 years would not be very enjoyable. His audiobook is currently available for free if you have a Spotify account.

 

[DAWG1419]

I take very low dose BP meds, but nothing like I used to take, watch your salt intake and your blood pressure won't get out of hand unless you have some other underlying issue,

4yrs ago I made a lifestyle change when it comes to my diet, I no longer eat ANYTHING with added sugar, whatever is in the food naturally is okay within reason, with the exception of some fruits, I don't eat starchy foods period , if I eat bread its whole wheat only , I eat sausage for breakfast at least 5 days a week , scrambled eggs usually 3 days a week, eat rotisserie chicken and lean beef for lunch or dinner every day of the week, occasionally I'll eat tuna fish , I still eat cheese in moderation, I eat sugar free oatmeal cookies as a snack, my lab work last month my LDL was 73, and my total cholesterol was 145, my A1C was 5.1 , and back at the end of 2019 my A1C was over 6 , if my LDL ever gets below 55 or so I'm going to quit taking the low dose statins that I still take, as there are many harmful effects of statins after long term use, Diabetes being one of them

Salt has nothing to do with blood pressure

 

[MOTS]

Salt has nothing to do with blood pressure

Wrong!

 

[bassboy1]

Wrong!

No, he's actually right.

 

[transfixer]

Exercise, especially strength training is every bit as important as nutrition especially as we age. Muscle loss becomes significant as we age unless you do some strength training to offset that loss. Added muscle, not only allows your body to uptake more glucose out of your bloodstream, but added strength and mobility makes a huge difference in reducing the chance of a fall which is often times the reason many people become sedentary. And that inactivity leads to many of the metabolic illnesses being discussed.

Dr. Peter Atias’s new book “Outlive” talks about healthspan, versus lifespan. None of us wants our health span to end 10 or 15 years before our lifespan, since those 10 or 15 years would not be very enjoyable. His audiobook is currently available for free if you have a Spotify account.

My job itself is rather physical, I don't sit at a desk, I'm constantly walking/lifting heavy parts or complete transmissions daily, and I've been on a testosterone replacement regime on and off for a few years now, on it regularly now for the last 3 or more years, it makes huge difference in regaining any muscle loss you have as a result of dieting or aging,

after I changed my eating habits I did lose some muscle mass and tone, but wasn't on TRT at that time, within months of going back on TRT I had my strength and muscle tone back, I intend on staying the course with my diet and TRT regime until I leave this world, I'm 63 in June, but feel 20yrs younger, and run circles around the other guys I work with who are anywhere from 15 to 20yrs younger than myself

 

[DAWG1419]

Wrong!

Explain why it’s bad.

 

[transfixer]

Explain why it’s bad.

Sodium causes your body to retain water/fluid , more fluid/water in your blood stream increases volume , increased volume in the same size blood vessels means increased pressure ,

Doctors will put people on a diuretic that have a problem with retaining fluid, diuretics themselves will cause your blood pressure to go lower because they get rid of excess fluid.

 

[DAWG1419]

Sodium causes your body to retain water/fluid , more fluid/water in your blood stream increases volume , increased volume in the same size blood vessels means increased pressure ,

Doctors will put people on a diuretic that have a problem with retaining fluid, diuretics themselves will cause your blood pressure to go lower because they get rid of excess fluid.

That’s a kidney problem not a salt problem