bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
So when you said that it was shooting 2 feet low at 10yds, it was really about 10in low (if that is the target pic you were referencing) at 10yds and you were using an exaggerated number for conversation sake?
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rosewood
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I watched a video on how to straighten a bent shotgun barrel. Pretty common to fix. I bought a Savage Model 94 in .410 and it was bent. You hit it with a rubber mallet in the middle of the bend (IIRC) while holding the gun in your hand. The momentum of the gun and mallet straightens it out. Turned out pretty good and patterns great. Shotguns are very imprecise tools.
I do not think that method would be very effective on a rifled bore.
Rosewood
I do not think that method would be very effective on a rifled bore.
Rosewood
killerv
Senior Member
I put my m1 benelli 20ga in a tree fork and did it after all the drop/cast shims wouldn't correct it.
When I was a kid. Shot a old 22 then and that was over 50 years ago. Sighted at 40 open sights. Then shot closer. Way off. Soon my inspection as a kid seen barrel bent. Tried to bend back. Did ok. But never just right. I was only 8 or 9. Went back to my other older 22 single shot. At that age I was allowed by my family to hunt. Shoot sight in. As now we had no neighbors.
RamblinWreck88
Useles Billy ain’t got nothing on ME !
I watched Randy Selby (AKA "The Real Gunsmith" on YouTube) apply the same principle to a rifle barrel in a video, except he beat it over a log. He puts it on a lathe to see the run-out, and you can visually see the difference in before & after. He said that was the 11th barrel he's done and that it works quite well.
It surprised the heck out of me to see such an apparently primitive technique, but I've got no grounds to doubt the man, and like others have said, the metal does have a "memory."
WishboneW
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bullgator
Senior Member
Two shotguns and a rifle!!
. You need to change your name to BarrelBender!. Now I feel like I just haven’t lived a full life.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Don't forget that a scope with 1/4" adjustment per click at 100yds needs 4 clicks to move 1 in at 100yds.
To move the same scope 1inch at 10yds, you would need 40 clicks.
10yds needs 10X the adjustment needed at 100yds.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
For examples sake:
A rifle that hits dead center at 10yds but 2 inches low just because of the height of scope in relation to the bore, the scope would need 80 clicks UP to move it those 2 inches.
I don't know of a scope that has that kind of adjustment range.
A rifle that hits dead center at 10yds but 2 inches low just because of the height of scope in relation to the bore, the scope would need 80 clicks UP to move it those 2 inches.
I don't know of a scope that has that kind of adjustment range.
Jester896
Senior Clown
the tube would be pretty big to get 80 up and 80 down. AN ATACR has 120MOA 60 up and 60 down and it is in a 34mm tube.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Yeah, I should have been more clear in saying that the majority of hunting scopes that the majority of hunters buy don't have that range of adjustment. I was oversimplifying it I guess.
I really missed saying my own point which is that 10yds is an awful range to try to fix a problem where a bullet is hitting any more than almost dead on while taking into account the height difference of the scope vs bore.
B. White
Senior Member
I don't know Bob, but worked in the area in the mid to late 80s and he had a good reputation then with a lot of folks I talked to, so I would trust him.
Did ya'll have any conversation about how bending and then straightening might affect accuracy down the road vs. replacing? Just curious, since I wouldn't have thought a barrel could be easily bent, so now I'm interested.
The only bent one I personally know of was a 22 owned by my grandpa. There was a black family who did some work for him from time to time and he and let the man borrow a 22. His wife got mad at him one night and tried to club him with it and bent it pretty good.
cowhornedspike
Senior Member
I am having a very difficult time convincing myself that a barrel bent bad enough to shoot that far off at that close of range would not be obvious when the bolt was removed and the bore sighted down. OP said he did this to initially set the scope before shooting (bore sighting of sorts).
Should have been real obvious that you were not looking down a straight hole...seems to me.
Should have been real obvious that you were not looking down a straight hole...seems to me.
WishboneW
Senior Member
Will need to shoot it some to see how it goes.Glad you got it straightened out...
Ain't nobody ever shot a bolt gun hot enough to bend a barrel, and I've heard of lead sled shooting cracking stocks, breaking scopes, ring/mount screws, and such as that.
But bend a barrel?
I'm very skeptical.
And I am very curious how he put the absolute perfect reverse bend in the barrel to fix it.
Had it been mine and it was bent, a new barrel would have been the answer if I liked the gun well enough...
Just my nickels worth.
My 2 shotgun barrels work perfectly now.
WishboneW
Senior Member
Bob said that about straightening it, memory or something like that.
WishboneW
Senior Member
I will just have to shoot it some and see.
I did not discuss what might happen in the future
WishboneW
Senior Member
Was not obvious to me
WishboneW
Senior Member
He put it in a vise and worked it a little at a time.
I watched GunnDocc (Curtis Wilbanks) do both of mine. He used a vise.
buckpasser
Senior Member
Seems like someone, somewhere could properly heat a bent rifle barrel, correct it, cool it, and have it fixed. It might act the fool it were to be fired repeatedly and get super hot? Seems like a cold “corrected” barrel would forever start drifting when it was warmed up with any repeated firing. I’m not a gunsmith or professional metal fabricator though…
